Instance is midwest.social. Not a solitary clue who the admin was who did it.
A friend was wondering why they hadn’t seen my posts and figured I’d been banned from lemmy.world or just left in general. I went to his instance and saw that in the modlog.
Not a damn clue as to why. There are no post removals, no comment removals, no temp bans and I never got any messages from any of the admins about anything that I did. Just one day, they randomly banned me for racism without rhyme nor reason. I have literally nothing that I can point towards and say “This is the reason why” because they never bothered to do anything other than ban me.
I am many things. I am an asshole, I’m a vindictive bitch, I’m a petty prick, I’m often antagonistic, I’m also a whiny bitch. But racist?
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Well okay then
I bet one of the admins just had it out for you and came up with a bullshit excuse. Midwest reminds me of the Tankie Triad sometimes, quite a few of their users are .ml and Hexbear alts and the nonsensical banning is perfectly on brand. Nowhere near on the same level, of course, but still clearly a problem.
Side note, I hardly ever see anyone posting from that instance anymore. Used to see their users all the time. I wonder why?
I like it because I prefer to have the blocking of instances be my choice.
ooo has the redbaiting found a new target?
Midwest is still federated with Hexbear as well.
What I find bizarre is that I only found out by complete accident.
Someone else made a post and @'d me. I looked at it and it had a response with someone saying “That account has been banned” and he was from the midwest.social instance. This dude happens to be a buddy of mine and I chat with him on Steam and Bsky so I reached out and asked what he meant while I looked at midwest.social and saw the banning.
He thought that lemmy.world had banned me for whatever reason (Spam. Spam would be the reason) and that’s why he wasn’t seeing my posts or anything on Lemmy anymore. That I either got banned or left lemmy on my own (which I did do for a hot second). I responded to him and asked if he could see the response. He couldn’t. He then looked at my account and saw all the posts outside of midwest.social and saw all the posts I’ve been making and that’s when I made this post.
Whole situation is just so weird.
Thanks again @End0fLine@midwest.social
Well, that definitely explains the number of tankies from that instance. On a side note, I’m really glad you’re back on Lemmy, the place felt empty without your posts.
Thank you <3
Life has just been a lot lately. Hard to get the energy to to go sorting through memes for 20 minutes, post them all and then go digging through the trash to find something to eat. The depression just does a lot of “What’s the point” and the not eating for days doesn’t give me enough energy to think up a point.
Midwest is still federated with Hexbear as well.
Any idea when Midwest was setup? I feel like I only saw Hexbear for a short bit before the blocking function became available. Then I immediately would have blocked Hexbear.
It just seems very midwestern to take the “just ignore them” approach.
That’s a major flaw in lemmy. No ban notifications. Or, I’ve never gotten one. Like, rock n roll, ban me, especially if it’s justified. But since lemmy doesn’t let me know, if a mod doesn’t send a “fuck off and die” note, I may not find out I’m banned for months (like your situation, it wasn’t until someone else brought it to my attention).
But I do have multiple accounts, and if you want to ban me instead of just this account, you gotta let me know so I can filter shit out so I don’t vote on an alt or make a comment while I’m piddling around or whatever.
Also, apologies for going off topic since the mod action taken against the OP is the point of posting here, PTB. With no specifics given, and the total lack of anything hinting at racism in your years on lemmy, I can’t see this being a justified ban. Like you said, you’re human enough to put on an asshole hat now and then (less than me most likely, but still), but racism just isn’t something you’ve indulged in even in jest that I’ve ever seen.
That’s a major flaw in lemmy. No ban notifications.
Agreed!
I’m not 100% what is going on with ban notifications, but you will get some. Mostly from communities but not all. I think it’s depending on which instance has implemented that AutoMod function. But none of them tell you that you’ve been banned from another instance. Hell, it doesn’t even show it in my modlog. I had to go to midwest.social and manually search their modlog for myself and THEN see that I was banned. I’m sure I’ve probably got that on a few other instances.
I abhor racism. I was raised in an exceptionally racist household. I cannot say that I never said the N-word because I did. A lot. But growing up in a hateful echo chamber in a small town on a small island when everyone is so white they sunburn at night? You never see anything to break that mold. First person I met who wasn’t white was a Native dude at school when I was like 10ish. He was great, invited me over to his place and I went. Met his family. Every single thing I had been told was a complete lie. Was at that point I started second guessing everything that I was ever taught by my shithole parents. I was furious. I’m still furious. Well over 2/3rd of my life later and I’m incredibly furious. I am not okay with being used, especially against people for no reason. Like hell am I going to try and continue that for other people.
Then there’s the fact that I’m gay and have a “vested interest” if you want to put it that way because racism isn’t that different from homophobia in how insanely fucking stupid the entire thing is.
But more than anything? It’s just a fucked up way to be. I’m a die hard Trekkie. If I watched that show and came away going “Racism is okay!” then I need to be shot.
I’ve removed two posts in the one comm im a mod of (that isn’t just a personal comm) and both times i responded in the post explaining why it’s deleted, before removing the post. That’s the only way I know of that will alert a person they’ve been moderated.
I’ve never gotten a notification for anything of mine that’s been removed or banned.
It is heavily dependant on the instance and whether they have that set up. Lemmy.world will send notices but not all instances do. I don’t think lemmy.world will send a notification saying you’ve been banned from the instance though, I could be wrong
Lemmy.world will send notices but not all instances do.
Must be recent, when I was banned they didn’t give me a notice. They eventually wrote an entire post about it, but never let me know directly.
I quite like that admin, he has a very ‘no bullshit’ attitude.
I get why you might be confused though, he tends to issue bans for comments or posts on other instances that he finds or are reported (instance admins get reports from users on their instance regardless of if it originates on a different one). I actually quite appreciated it myself, but I very much share his political perspective so its not for everyone.
Midwest.social is small anyway, so its not a big deal.
There is more going on with that instance than meets the eye.
Like I said, I quite like that admin.
I get why people (especially people who do not share his perspectives) might not appreciate the blunt moderation, but I happen to agree with both of those examples.
The first one was someone abusing the report function against people who were not breaking any server rules. Midwest.social does not have a rule against calls to violence, and I personally do not have a problem with calling for violence against billionares, just like I don’t have a problem with calls to violence against nazis or genociders. If it were my server, and I was getting dozens of reports from the same person complaining about people wishing harm to billionares, I would probably ban them, too.
I honestly don’t see a problem with the second post, unless you just think he’s being an ass.
Banning people for downvoting your posts is a little weird. People can run their instances however they like but it helps to have truth in advertising, e.g. Beehaw is quite up-front when they do it, as too is Admiral Patrick of dubvee.org, whereas even Hexbears (notorious leftists) have dunked on Seahorse for having such a fragile ego and acting cowardly (their words).
Obviously you are free to do as you please, I was just pointing out some references in case they help. Normally when people ask what leftist instances to join, I tell them that yours (lemmy.dbzer0.com) and slrpnk.net are awesome, and then stop there without mentioning midwest.social.
As in, the instance is small for a reason, due to people avoiding it. :-P
Banning people for downvoting your posts is a little weird.
Where do you see that he was banning people for downvoting? He locked the post, sure, but things were certainly devolving in that thread. Looks like he just said an unpopular thing and then taunted downvoters for disagreeing.
As in, the instance is small for a reason, due to people avoiding it.
Frankly, I think large instances are a huge problem. I think every instance should be as small as midwest.social.
Yea, go nuts with avoiding it if you’re not a fan. I think seahorse would actually appreciate it if people who know they aren’t going to like his community not bother him with new registrations.
Since you do not seem to be sea-lioning, I will add some more details, but all of this is available from what I sent already.
Where do you see that he was banning people for downvoting?
It is the very title of the post in the 2nd link. The top comment starts with “Confirmed its real…”.
Yes small instances are great. Some are as small as just one person, and do not even allow sign-ups for anyone else. This one, however, advertises that it is welcoming as it desires to become larger.
What you are missing is that additional people are being affected, beyond merely the instance admin and the people who wish to block that instance. There are communities that have been placed on that instance, by people who were unaware, and are now mods. Some of those communities have since been moved elsewhere, after this community we are in now discussed the issue, making it less impactful but still present for new people coming here from Reddit who were unaware.
The admin may come across as “no-nonsense”, but there is more to that story than simply that. Obviously you will do as you please regardless - I just wanted to offer that knowledge so that your choice could be as informed as possible.
It is the very title of the post in the 2nd link.
The post title says he locked the post, not that he banned anyone.
This one, however, advertises that it is welcoming as it desires to become larger.
It’s welcoming, but not to everyone. “No bigotry, hate speech, No zionists, No fascists”. Doesn’t say it’s limited only to activity on their server.
What you are missing is that additional people are being affected, beyond merely the instance admin and the people who wish to block that instance.
Every admin and every instance has their own rules and their own standard for who can participate in their communities. This admin has chosen the proactive route, but those who get locked out have plenty of other places to go, and they can even successfully appeal their ban. That’s the benefit of the fediverse, and I think it’s perfectly acceptable to preemptively ban people from your community if they display the kind of behavior you find unacceptable. It’s your party, and you can uninvite whoever you want.
I don’t have any problem with you sharing your take, but I haven’t seen anything here that I take issue with. You’re free to disagree but I like that server just fine.
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Hey stamets, did you
Did I what?
You know, the thing!
… I do not know the thing
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I’m still banned from world I think
What you do to get server wide ban lol
World has regime whores mods on political type communities. The admins appear stay out of the drama
No idea
Have you ever opposed any of the world’s ongoing genocides or authoritarian regimes?
is your name irony or serious?
If you detected a hint of atomic number 26, it’s because the name is as serious as a rusty old frying pan.
Usually that just gets me mass downvoted and called a tankie
Or a liberal.
Ive never personally been called a Liberal, I have been called a fake anarchist and western imperialist sympathizer tho :3
Got one of these too…
Critical thinking triggers certain people.
I was temp banned there, for fascism, and the same person temp banned me from another community. So I just permanently blocked midwest.
My crime? I commented on world technology community that both the poster and many comments misunderstood how grants worked. It made many people angry.
Oh i’ve stopped looking for logic with these weasels.
I got banned with a “merry Christmas ya filthy racist” for pointing out the Master from Doctor Who was a genocidal maniac who tended to get hoist on his own petard. Because the current iteration was played by an actor of SEA descent. Apparently actor =/= character is faulty maths.
To be fair, you were banned from hexbear.
Ironically, the term “dunk tank” has rascist origins.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunk_tank#Origin (note: slurs).
Go back a bit further, i also got banned from .ml for referring to xi as “winnie”
That’s actually your earliest banning. The lemmy.ml one they just put down Rule 1 or whatever. The admins of lemmy.ml are a piece of work. They also banned my startrek.website account a long ass time ago but were all but forced to reverse course. Was the early days of Lemmy and I was posting way more than I do now, which is saying something. Why’d they ban me? I posted a meme that was the dude from Jimmy Neutron saying “My first gay character!”, attributed to Disney. The teacher then was like “This is your 18th first gay character” or something. I posted it with the title “They’re always the first in China, at least before being removed.”
Instant ban.
poor little lemmings. They’ll never be part of the power structure no matter how much they gobble, best they can do is swing at people on a federate instance so they have to go to one of a hundred others.
Ever notice how seldom they quote the post and context, even when asked for contestation purposes? I once asked a mod somewhere why I was banned and they just replied “no” and blocked me lol. Summer people are just so patheticly petty.
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people are just so patheticly petty
Modding attracts a type kinda like clergy attracts pedos
Hey
Not all mods!
Stamets, you honky.
What? Can’t hear you over the banjo
Part of a temp ban I got (night have been my other account I don’t use anymore) was because I ignored that my other comments were removed and continued an argument.
How was I supposed to know my comments were removed? There was no warning or anything, no notification about removals, nothing. Only saw the comments I was responding to as they popped in.
Doesn’t REALLY matter, I deserved it, but it would be nice to actually be appropriately warned before catching a ban when a warning was implied.
It was a beautiful comment. Some people struggle with irony. Btw, I don’t think anyone is concious of their unconcious biases. If you give a shit, in the broad sense, you just have to keep trying.
You’re interviewing two candidates and you just seem to prefer Dan over Eric, who has dreads. You’re not really sure why you prefer Dan, but you’re sure it’s nothing to do with racism. You feel confident because you have a daughter-in-law you love like your own, who happens to be black. Are you racist if you hire Dan?
Oh absolutely. I have no idea if I’m racist unless I have it pointed out. Do I want to be? Fuck no. I just want to be told how so I can stop doing that. I don’t want my fun to come at the expense of others. Unless they’re billionaires or nazis, they can fuck off.