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      Then the DNC runs an “independent” in the race against you when you win your primary and the monied interests fund that person, splitting the vote against the MAGA republican who calls them both commies and wins anyway. It’s happening in NYC already with Cuomo remaining on the ballot.

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        Adams and the other guy are the MAGA Republicans. Cuomo running as Independent will only take votes from them. They all share the same target demographic: assholes. Adams and Cuomo are pretty much universally hated by anyone who voted Zohran

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          Adams and Cuomo are pretty much universally hated by anyone who voted Zohran

          And what’s more, many people will simply vote for the Dem candidate, for one reason or another. For reasons good and bad - but here, ‘vote blue no matter who’ works in the favor of the progressive.

          We’ll see if it’s enough, but it’s definitely a disadvantage to the dickweed fascist Cuomo.

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    “33 Senate Seats are on the ballot”

    LMFAO.

    Let me introduce you to Staggered Elections

    Only Maine’s seat is even winnable, the other ones up for relection in 2026 are all safe Blue or Safe Red states

    Currently its 53-47. Highly doubt that Dems can win 3 in Red States. (Unless we get a White Boi Hillbilly Revolution?)

    The House cannot block juidicial nominations.

    Judicial nominations are not subject to Filibuster.

    So…

    Not to be a pessimist, but…

    Looks like an uphill battle…

    😕

    Edit:

    Ask yourselves: Which of the red seats can Dems flip in 2026? (Grey ones are not up for election, only one seat is up for election per state due to staggered elections)

    Despite this, you should still go vote! But don’t get too excited. Its not safe until fascists are out of executive power.

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    Which party do I vote for to get him impeached? Democrats just overwhelmingly struck down a motion to impeach.

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        So just ignore what’s going on right now? That’s like saying I should vote republican if I care about black rights because they abolished slavery.

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            Could you help me out with that? Between this, the Laken Riley act, the support of the bombing of Iran, the support of the genocide, and the opposition to Zohran, the dems look like they quite like Trump, so I guess I just don’t understand. Or should we buckle up for more performative whine ins like Corey Booker did?

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              Sure.

              Assuming “this” means the impeachment effort, it was always going to be performative as long as the republiQans chair the committees. Besides that, the reason given is trump “de facto declared war on Iran”, which doesn’t mean anything. Again, that fucker Gee Dubz screwed this all up in the early 2000s. Declaring war is a Congressional matter, but the “predisent” can launch attacks without it. It’s involved but that’s the gist. It was DOA. The 125 Derps that voted against it saved everyone some time at the cost of looking like stooges.

              The Laken Riley act is not good, but the history of the bill is super charged and I don’t think they were going to stop it anyway. It was the first bill of the newly republiQan majority House and the still republiQan majority Senate. They could have voted no and been defeated like the vast majority of Democrats, but 42 House and 10 Senators went for the tough-on-crime thing which is a very old problem. (That’s 13% and 10% repectively, if you’re into that shit.)

              The support of the bombing of Iran: okay, you’ll have to pitch in here because I found much more about Democrats against it than Democrats for it. The one person who said flat out they were for it was Fetterman, and I think we all know what’s going on there. The few who “weren’t necessarily against it” were the olds who both either must support Israel even after all this garbage, OR remember the hostage crisis, or both. Again, the vast majority were against it, said so, and some took action to stop it. If you’ve got a specific link to cover it, share it.

              The support of the genocide: this is an interesting read from Brookings, fwiw, that says the Dems who opposed Israel’s actions lost their primaries. Only 2% won them. 44% didn’t mention it at all when they ran. The short answer is that by-and-large, Democrats who spoke loudest against it were voted out (or not supported. Same thing). Primaries are critical, and for all the talk I’m trying to do about the midterms, you can see just in this thread, many people aren’t engaged yet. If they ever will be. There’s no defending support of it, but there’s a lot to do to speak out about it. I don’t think that’s the same as they support it - it’s not like they vote every week to do what they do. For that matter I want them to stand up for Ukraine, and it’s been drowned out by Gaza, much to trump and Putin’s delight.

              The opposition to Zohan: first of all, he’s running for mayor. Okay, yes, mayor of 13 Million people, but it’s not like he’s passing laws or affecting anyone outside of that 300 square miles. Secondly he won a ranked choice primary. It’s exciting! I hope he wins! But he hasn’t yet. Thirdly, this may come as some shock to you but NYC politics run incredibly deep with money, corruption, and, well politics. It’s also a media capitol, so we’re hearing way more about it than we otherwise would. Old, moneyed interests freaking out about losing a sure bet. Dem strategists (usually scum) getting all kinds of ink about themselves if they talk about it. They’re freaked out that big money lost and desperate to hold on to the sure thing, and they’ll find a way to fuck it up. It’s not because they love trump, though. It’s because old moneyed assholes are republiQans anywhere else. You’ve got to factor in New York politics when you talk about it.

              the dems look like they quite like Trump

              That’s a view shared by a couple of distinct interests who would love Democrats to lose even more than they just did. I don’t subscribe to it.

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    It’s not enough to just elect Democrats. Ok technically Democrats would have 67 votes in the Senate if they flipped every single Republican seat, which would be just enough to convict. But that’s not happening.

    Instead, there needs to be a movement by anti Trump forces from across the spectrum to primary Republicans and replace them with anti Trump candidates. That effort needs to start now.

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      Tfw electing Democrats is “not happening” but flipping a cult against it’s demented, corrupt, rapist leader makes way more sense.

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    We’re going to gain a lot of seats, just because we already did a 180 from the Victory Fund nonsense that cost us those seats to begin with:

    https://democrats.org/news/dnc-and-asdc-announces-organize-everywhere-win-anywhere-strategy-largest-ever-monthly-dnc-investment-into-democratic-state-and-territory-parties/

    Going from bankrupting those state parties to the biggest funding push ever will allow those red/purple districts to fight back and flip seats.

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        You mean in 2020 when Biden won?

        When a dem becomes president, they name the DNC chair, and the DNC does a performative vote to confirm.

        So the voting members of the DNC didn’t have an opportunity to move the party left like they just did.

        If Kamala had won, she would have named a DNC chair just like the ones that had been fucking up.

        So to be clear, I held my nose and voted D like always.

        But if she had won the party would still be fucked. Settling for a neoliberal never fixed anything, because they knew if they let an unbiased DNC happen, progressives would take over the party.

        And that just happened.

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      I hope we do because I could swear I kept hearing the consensus was that we would barely have any possible seats to gain in the midterms and the best we could hope for was not having a greater R majority :(

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        Because since 2016 the DNC has only cared about the president and not down ballot races…

        The states we gave up on weren’t impossible to win, they were just impossible to win after the DNC Victory Fund took all their donations and left them penniless.

        Like, if I told you 100 of your neighbors will starve to death, that sounds depressing as fuck. If you then found out they were starving because I raised grocery prices even though unsold food was thrown away, these higher prices make me an extra 10kna year

        You shouldn’t just be mad your neighbors are gonna starve…

        You should be absolutely irrate at me for causing the problem and pretending there is nothing anyone can do except be sad.

        I feel like that’s a pretty apt analogy for what the DNC has been doing to any state that didn’t do exactly what they said including removing their primary delegates.

        Shits been a lot worse than most people realize. So it’s going to be very easy to retake a lot of ground. Just by the DNC not acting like fucking idiots for the first time in a decade. And Obama’s 8 years the DNC was basically non-existent. Because I stead of fixing the DNC, Obama just fucking ignored it.

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    Technically 35 are up, two special elections, and only 22 are Republican seats so we could afford to lose 2 of the 35 with the goal of removing Trump. Still doable.

    We could, however, lose 9 of them and still undo citizens united, pass medicaid for all, maybe tax the rich, etc.

    More realistically I think we will see Republicans getting ousted in different ways than electing the DNC whose platform are those reforms I mentioned, instead we will probably see their seats go to moderate independents.

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    We’ve been doing this shit for a decade now. It’s not working, the system is broken, we should try something else. Yelling VOTED HARDER has failed.

    Also, don’t put status quo Democrats on those ballots, especially ones who voted to table impeachment earlier this week.

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    If voting was actually a threat to totalitarians in power they wouldn’t let us do it anyway.

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      Have you heard of a little thing called The American Experiment?

      Funny story. They actually were in on the ground floor of a new nation and they said, “We left this England place because it was totally bogus. So if we don’t get some cool rules - pronto - . . . well then we’ll just be bogus too.”

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      They have been MASSIVELY trying to stop people from voting, what the fuck are you talking about you absolute nincompoop? They keep purging voters and trying to implement new ID requirements and closing polling places and encouraging people to “poll watch” (voter intimidation).

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      If voting was actually a threat to totalitarians in power they would spend a lot of money and power to convince you that it’s pointless and you shouldn’t do it.

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    Remember folks, every vote counts. We did this to ourselves.

    I’ve said it before elsewhere but it needs to be heard…

    It’s just wild to me continually seeing posts not understanding how this all works, and how it would play out. It’s like the people who thought China paid the tariffs…

    The house is almost tied. That’s who passes bills, handles impeachments, some of the most powerful committees are, and who impeaches Presidents…

    218 Republicans, 213 Democrats.

    Let’s see, take New York for example.

    26 representatives total, 19 Democrat and 7 Republican.

    5 of those were within 2 points last time their seat was up.

    People who think that New York is blue, their vote doesn’t matter, skips the votes for the House and Senate and end up losing a Blue house seat but later complain that nothing changes are literally the fucking problem.

    Every. Fucking. State. Is. Like. This.

    Apathetic morons who don’t realize that the president is only held accountable by the other branch of government then wave their hands around when they did jack shit to help put people in place to, are the fucking problem.

    District 3 of California was lost by 24,000 votes. District 22 was lost by 3,000.

    Those two seats in the house, along with the close ones in New York, Jersey, Michigan, Illinois, Washington, hell every state… Are what makes the House of Representatives or breaks it.

    So, if you think that your vote for president doesn’t matter, so you skip voting and let these other seats slip, yes, you’re a fucking moron who can’t grasp basic concepts of government that are taught in 4th grade.

    And don’t get me started on the State House/Senates, how they define voting laws and voting zones and engage in gerrymandering.

    Every fucking vote counts.

    And until the country realizes it, and starts acting on it, we’ll keep getting the shit we deserve.

    House needs a simple majority, and two thirds of the Senate.

    Democrats would need ~18 seats.

    First, that won’t happen in 2026.

    Even the best cases make it hard to win enough by 2028. Which is why impeachment is just not something we can hold out for.

    Gerrymandering is part of why this is a problem, which is done at the local level, and again why every vote counts.

    How could it play out? Assuming some absurdly weird upside down world just opposite of what we’re living in, this is the only path just looking at the numbers…

    Again, Democrats would need to gain 18 net seats. Seats Potentially in Play (Republican Incumbents): This requires looking at seats up in upcoming cycles.

    • Class 1 Seats (Up in 2026):
      • Highly Competitive Targets: These would be the first priority. States where Democrats have won statewide recently or that lean only slightly Republican. Examples based on recent political history might include:
        • North Carolina (Budd-R)
        • Alaska (Sullivan-R) - Unique dynamics with ranked-choice voting.
      • Stretch Targets: States that are more Republican but could potentially flip under exceptionally favorable conditions (like the hypothetical turnout).
        • Iowa (Ernst-R)
        • Montana (Daines-R) - Depends heavily on candidate matchups.
        • Kentucky (McConnell-R’s seat - potential retirement changes dynamics)
        • Kansas (Marshall-R)
        • South Carolina (Graham-R)
      • Very Difficult Targets: Solidly Republican states requiring overwhelming Democratic turnout and significant shifts among other voters.
        • Texas (Cornyn-R)
        • Mississippi (Wicker-R)
        • Alabama (Tuberville-R)
        • West Virginia (Capito-R)
        • Oklahoma (Mullin-R - Special election winner)
        • Wyoming (Lummis-R)
        • Idaho (Risch-R)
        • Arkansas (Cotton-R)
        • Nebraska (Ricketts-R)
        • South Dakota (Rounds-R)
        • Louisiana (Cassidy-R) - Jungle primary system.
    • Class 2 Seats (Up in 2028): (Looking further ahead)
      • Highly Competitive Targets:
        • Maine (Collins-R) - Often competitive, depends on matchup.
        • Georgia (Perdue/Ossoff dynamic showed competitiveness, depends who holds it after '26 potentially) - Assuming GOP holds a seat here.
      • Stretch Targets:
        • Michigan (Peters-D currently, but listing potential GOP flips back if one happened hypothetically before 2028) - Generally leans D, but could be contested.
        • New Hampshire (Shaheen-D currently) - Generally leans D, but listing potential GOP flips back.
      • Very Difficult Targets: (Many solidly Republican states)
        • Tennessee (Hagerty-R)
        • Alaska (Murkowski-R historically, depends on dynamics)
        • North Carolina (Tillis-R)
        • Iowa (Grassley-R seat potentially)
        • Texas (Cruz-R)
        • Kentucky (Paul-R)
        • And many others similar to the 2026 list (SC, AL, MS, WY, ID, NE, SD, KS, WV, OK).

    It’s going to take an absolutely historic level of pain to both drive enough people to vote MAGA out to make this change though.

    The amount that’s being excused, sanewashed, and just drowned out with other absurdities…

    We’re on all on this shit ride until some new wildcard comes into play.

    No impeachment, no Supreme Court, no guardrail is going to change that.

    Something new and unaccounted for is the only feasible catalyst.

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      Totally get all of that, but U cant help but look at McConnell’s seat and remember how Schumer and co rejected the exciting young candidate and instead forced a PRO-TRUMP “democrat” to challenge him.

      It’s simple: if you think you can challenge a red conservative with a blue conservative, the red conservative will win every time. Blue conservatives are just carpetbaggers to the voters.

      The challenger to conservatism is progressivism. If you don’t actually provide a choice you WILL lose.

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      I’m not American and I wish you guys the very best, but my expectations for the 2026 elections is on par with the elections in Russia. Every non republican candidate may end up in jail or out of a window.

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        Unfortunately as someone who lives here and has no choice but to watch it, I think you’re right.

        Far too many of my countrymen are just complacent in letting this happen.

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          It’s not easy to take action that really works. Protests only do so much. Armed resistance is problematic and can backfire in so many ways…

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    “let’s wait for the midterms” yeah i bet the colonies are going to rid themselves of bigoted nazis this time for sure

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      Yuuup. All these calls to “fix it at midterms” are just going to keep happening until more people see that our system is not working for them in a more drastic way.

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    I honestly quite afraid they are gonna rig the fuck outta the mid-terms somehow. I realize I have little to no evidence to support that, but doesn’t mean it couldn’t still happen under this regime.

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      2024 seemed to be rigged at the top only. That’s how we ended up with so many people voting a straight Democratic ticket, except for HitlerPig at the top, which Dems have been trying to convince us is perfectly normal, which it isn’t.

      Its one thing to rig the vote in one race in seven swing states, it’s another to rig 435 Congressional races around the country. That would be nearly impossible. It would take multiple operatives in every district, and at some point, somebody would squeal.

      The Senate races pose other challenges, although they only really have to identify a handful of close races, and make sure those fall to MAGA.

      The MAGA Nazis can’t afford to let either chamber flip, or the Democrats will have control of investigative committees with subpoena and arrest powers. If that starts, it will end with prison terms for many.

      So I’m convinced that they will “suspend” elections using Martial Law, or the Insurrection Act, or some other legal atrocity.

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        people voting a straight Democratic ticket, except for HitlerPig at the top, which Dems have been trying to convince us is perfectly normal, which it isn’t.

        What. The dems saying that’s normal? Where!

        So I’m convinced that they will “suspend” elections using Martial Law, or the Insurrection Act, or some other legal atrocity.

        They’re stupid enough to do it, but I doubt they’ll get all the buy in they’d need.

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          Where? Elise Stefanik told that fable at the beginning of her Democratic response to HitlerPig’s 2025 State of the Union Address, and then Amy Klobuchar was doing the talk show rounds over the last couple of weeks saying it as well. That’s two specific examples, six months apart, and I’ve heard others talk about it in between as if it is a perfectly normal conclusion.

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            Okay well two Democrats out of 45.1 Million, so sure, “the Dems have been trying to convince us it’s normal” okay.

            I haven’t seen it, I’d call those two idiots, and I haven’t heard it, but if those are indeed verifiable examples you could use it for hyperbolic effect and not to be taken seriously.

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              I was asked for examples, and I offered two very highly visible examples, one during the SOTU Response, am OFFICIAL Democratic response, where the allegation would be heard by the entire nation, and the other on a recent extended press tour by a top Democratic leader at various media outlets. The two examples were months apart, proving that the Democratic Party has accepted this theory as fact, even though they never did anything to verify this theory.

              Now that I’ve given multiple examples, you want to claim they don’t count. Why don’t they count? Because they are such a tiny percentage? Do you require that I name literally every single person who has repeated that idea?

              Despite me answering the challenge of sources, not one person has offered up a single example of a verifiable voter who claims to have voted a straight Democratic ticket, except for Trump at the top.

              I was asked for examples, and I found two highly visible ones. Now give me the examples I have asked for.

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                Saying “the Democrats” did this or that either means federal elected officials or the registered voters of the party. In your examples, you’ve got two strong cases for the former. I disagree that all federally elected Democratic officials support this. I disagree that most do, but I don’t have any proof for either.

                not one person has offered up a single example of a verifiable voter who claims to have voted a straight Democratic ticket, except for Trump at the top.

                I agree with that. Because statistics is the devil’s flatulence there might be one, but no one has even claimed such an example.

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                  I disagree that all federally elected Democratic officials support this.

                  Whether they personally agree or not isn’t the point. The Democratic PARTY has officially endorsed this theory, and have sent their people out to spread this theory in OFFICIAL messages. It is the official position of the party.