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    If Life is an inalienable right, and food is an undeniable necessity for human life, then it should be self-evident that food is a human right.

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      We’re dealing with a society that doesn’t understand what inalienable means, and especially the leaders.

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    Fuck. We’re the baddies.

    All the so called christians that voted for this. They should be ashamed, but I’m not sure they can even feel shame.

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      It’s really funny that as an atheist, I have more faith in the teachings of Jesus(charity, don’t be a dick) than the so-called followers of Christ.

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      That’s the beauty of Christianity.

      It can be exploited to make you feel correct no matter your worldview.

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      Isn’t Christianity the religion where it doesn’t really matter how bad you are? In the end the love for Jesus fills up you entirely and before your final moments you become good.

      I vaguely remember learning something like that.

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      This is not about 2025 American politics. Think in terms of game theory, pure logic, drop your morals. If you’re you the baddest dude in the hood, why would you let weaker men trap you into binding agreements that might bite your ass down the road? All risk, no reward, foolish.

      America won’t be a real member of the international community until we are militarily and economically forced into the role.

      See the gathering of generals and the warlike speech yesterday? They know we’re slipping economically. Only way to counter, for a fascist, is military might. Once you’ve built your power on a single man never being wrong, forging ahead no matter what, there is no turning back. Plus, our leader is a dementia addled old man. All he understands is kicking ass and lording power and money over others. God knows what he’ll do or say next, but you can count on that behavior.

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        Well if you listen to the people here, we’re also bad for being victims of it and not killing people

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          It isnt people we’ d be killing. Those creatures ceased being people a long time ago

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            No. Just… don’t. I don’t know if you are trying to absolve humanity from their sins, or if you are just participating in the great tradition of declaring your enemies as inhuman so that you can kill them guilt-free - but either way, don’t.

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              Then sit your ass back on your couch and wait for them to come for you because they absolutely will

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    The UN declaration of Human Rights already declared “freedom from want” a human right, which includes food, shelter, and clothing.

    Food is already a human right, according to the UN.

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      freedom from want

      That goes against the very foundations of capitalism!

      The UN is lucky no one in the USA government can read, or they’d’ve already been liberated with extreme prejudice!

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        Didn’t you read? Trump just signed an executive order that claims anticapitalist actions are terrorism.

        I wish I was being sarcastic…

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      It’s just capitalists that think that way. Your country has them too, I promise. They are a scourge that must either be washed away, or they will tighten their grip on the world and turn us all into monsters in their own image.

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        Your country has them too

        Sure, but the USA is the only country where capitalism is the official state religion, and where reasonable regulations are seen as an attack on personal liberties (since it’s also the only country that considers companies people… and real people a resource to be owned and consumed).

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          Funny side note. Gene Roddenbury wrote the Ferengi alien race into the Deep Space 9 series to be the bad guys. Ultra capitalists, which had some… odd parrelels with judaism on top of the hyper capitsim. Women being unable to participate in business and being held as second class citiziens who werent allowed to wear clothes and were generally held as lesser is a good example. Sounds good on paper in the writing room, but they didnt catch on as bad guys in the US market and were moved to a comedy role, and new bad guys were introduced. Americans just couldnt see oppresive capitalists as villains. There was some pushback in the form of some groups calling the portrayal of Ferengi as an innately antisemitic construct, but no one ever said they were jewish or modeled after judaism, so thats awkward.

          In a similar example, the writer of the Watchmen comic series wrote Rorschach to mock the fascist elements of American politics, and the character was intended to be mocked and pittied. American audiences adored Rorschach and he unexpectedly became the fan favorite and most discussed character by a fair margin. His black and white thinking and unwillingness to “sell out” no matter the cost --even when the cost was armageddon --came across as deeply principled … to American audiences.

          makes you wonder what the character of American people even is. We are fused with capitalism.

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            Seriously, Moore did everything possible to portray Kovacs (especially Kovacs after he stopped wearing the mask and he became the mask as someone extremely_damaged_, and who was very unlikable as a person.

            He was rude, he was homeless or close to it, he broke into the home of the only friend he had left, stole his beans, and ate them cold directly from the can, he spent his days wandering the streets with a “the end is nigh” sign and his nights beating up petty criminals into the hospital or early graves, he read some far right pamphlet of which he probably was a significant percentage of the readership… if I had to compare him to some other character in media the first to come to mind is Taxi Driver’s Travis Bickle.

            Moore gave him a tragic past, sure, but that was supposed to explain Rorschach, not to justify him… but a lot of readers read it as such.

            The scene where Silk Spectre II and Night Owl II reminisce about the past and laugh at how Rorschach threw some pervert who liked being beaten up by suits down an elevator shaft isn’t supposed to be humorous, it’s supposed to show (like the whole Comedian character and story, or the whole book, really) how the rest of the watchmen aren’t really good either… but for a lot of readers it humanised him.

            His “badass” one-liners show how despite his damage he’s still capable of quick wit and reasoning, how he’s still responsible for his actions. And in the prison scenes how he’s as deserving of being locked in there as any other inmate, if not more. But for a lot of readers they just make him a badass action hero.

            Same with V in V for Vendetta; while charming (in a significantly unsettling way), he’s a self admitted monster, created by monsters. He’s what’s left of the man they murdered, animated only by his desire for vengeance.

            He doesn’t care about freeing England, or about justice, or anything like that. He cares only for vengeance and while he tries to leave a successor to carry on after he’s done, by torturing Evie like he was tortured he isn’t freeing her, he’s just perpetuating the cycle of abuse.

            There are no heroes left in Norsefire’s England, yet readers see him as a hero, a liberator, a freedom fighter.

            Moore always expected too much of his readers, and we always let him down.

            No wonder he ended up secluding himself from society and becoming a wizard.

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    The concept of voting food as a human right is already weird to me but yeah, of course this would be the result.

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      This vote makes no difference whatsoever. The UN can’t truly bind any state to any action. Why would the US participate when we’re the biggest bully on the block? We’re only in it for public perception, and most importantly, the veto.

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        If it doesn’t do anything then it doesn’t cost anything to vote for it. The US opposition to it was weirdly that it both is just symbolical and doesn’t have concrete steps and that it forces bad things on the US (companies)

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    The capitalism demands payment for food. The capitalism reminds you that it’s easier to pull yourself up by the bootstraps if you weigh less.

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      Every economic system requires money for food. Unless you want to grow your own? Been gardening for 35-years, it would be hell to feed my tiny wife and my tiny self on 2 acres.

      It’s not capitalism, you’re just seeing the end stages. No reason we couldn’t have continued to tax the snot out the wealthy and continued to collectively bargain via unions. No reason we couldn’t have continued to disallow and bust monopolies.

      Any economic system will eventually funnel the money upstream. We have to have the morals and education to fight against that. Every economic system is rise and fall, rinse and repeat.

      I don’t have the ultimate answer. Education? But how do you fund that, and keep everyone singing from the same hymn book, when the money starts trickling up and the rich fight for their own best interests?

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    I was thinking if they voted again about the same thing with the same results but yeah this was about the 2021 vote.