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UnGlasierteGurke@feddit.org to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 10 days ago

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UnGlasierteGurke@feddit.org to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 10 days ago
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    Imagine a 4D object if you think human imagination is limitless. Good luck

    • Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org
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      You can project a 4D object onto a 3D space just like you can project a 3D object onto a 2D plane. If you use stereoscopic trickery you can for example watch a tesseract rotate on a phone screen. Don’t ask me how I know but if you spend an evening doing that sorta thing on shrooms 4D geometry might start feeling intuitive to you. Your physical senses are limited to three dimensions, your mind genuinely isn’t.

      • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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        ok, then imagine a 5D object

    • borokov@lemmy.world
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      She did: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alicia_Boole_Stott

    • BrilliantantTurd4361@sh.itjust.works
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      9 days ago

      moves a cube

    • Tetragrade@leminal.space
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      Ok I did. Im just built different.

    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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      x ∈ ℝ⁴, there done

      edit: if you want specifics, (1, 2, 3, 4)

  • potoooooooo ✅️@lemmy.world
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    I just imagined it? Now what?

    • IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works
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      Well now you just triggered a false vacuum decay on the far side of the galaxy. Way to go.

    • MajinBlayze@lemmy.world
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      Now write a proof showing that your set is neither countably nor uncountably infinite and become the most famous mathematician I’ve replied to on Lemmy today

      • potoooooooo ✅️@lemmy.world
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        No, it’s private. You have no right to the things I imagine and that wasn’t the deal!

      • elevenbones@sh.itjust.works
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        The proof of this has been left to the reader…

      • Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com
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        8 days ago

        I have discovered a truly marvelous proof of this, which this margin comment is too narrow to contain.

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    Maybe I would if my spare brain capacity wasn’t being used to rotate cows.

    • marcos@lemmy.world
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      Just imagine them invariant to any 3D rotation.

      • rmuk@feddit.uk
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        Great, now I’m imaging a universe rotating around a stationary cow.

  • Siegfried@lemmy.world
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    What about all reals > 0?

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      Same as the cardinality of all reals. In fact, the cardinality of the set of all reals between 0 and 1 is the same as the cardinality of the set of all reals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinality_of_the_continuum#Sets_with_cardinality_of_the_continuum

      Glad you made me look! I hadn’t thought about whether there were sets with cardinality greater than the cardinality of the continuum. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinality_of_the_continuum#Sets_with_greater_cardinality

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    Correct me if.I’m wrong but the Continuum Hypothesis was proven undecidable. So we can chose to add CH (false or true, whichever we like) to ZFC without changing anything meaningful about ZFC.

    But then, if we chose it to be true, could we construct such a set ?

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      If you could construct such a set, CH wouldn’t be independent of ZFC

      • mEEGal@lemmy.world
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        Thanks for the insight !

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    Brain: Inhale, exhale…

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  • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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    imagine a new color. i will wait.

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      Olo is a good example. It’s due to a quirk of human perception and the structure of our eyes. They basically designed a machine to try and stimulate the green detecting cones without stimulating the red detecting cones. Normally if something pure green hits your eyes, it stimulates those red cones too. So this is something our bodies are capable of perceiving but not something that we can ever perceive under normal circumstances.

      Is it a “new color”? Not exactly. Did it take a good bit of imagination to conceive trying to get our brains to see it? Yes.

      • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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        hey this reminds me of chimerical colors.

      • HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com
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        That’s wild. So the only people who have seen olo are ones who’ve had their eyes laser beamed.

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    I imagined a bunny wearing a kimono singing Bring Me the Horizon covers. ❤️

    • L3ft_F13ld!@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      That actually sounds awesome. I’d pay to go to that show.

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    Georg Cantor in shambles.

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    Another way of stating the difference between natural vs. real sets is that you can’t count every real number. What’s in between? A set where you can count some significant portion?

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      Are you saying that there’s nothing in between? Prove it, and turn modern mathematics inside out!

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    I just imagined the set of countable ordinals, and there’s a universe where I’m right

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    I’m imagining a set of big naturals

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      Real

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      But that is smaller than the naturals

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    Please translate.

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      the cardinality of a set is the number of things in it.

      some sets have infinite items in them such as the counting numbers (there’s always a bigger fish dot jpeg). but not all infinities are equal some are larger.

      equality: if we can map a 1:1 rule between items in two sets with infinite items they are said to be equal infinities.

      greater: but if we can map all in one set to another and note that there are still items left over, the first set has more things in it so if the other set has infinity items in it, this collection must have an even larger set of items in it, a greater tier of infinite.

      a common example in math classes is mapping items in the real number between 0 and 1 to the counting numbers (1,2,3,…) using the rule 1>1/1, 2>1/2, 3>1/3,… we can see (0 to 1) has a 1:1 mapping but there are still more items (for instance 1/1.5). this shows there are more items in the real number line from 0 to 1 than there is items in the counting numbers. though both are infinite one infinity is larger.

      so the meme. it’s asking you to imagine a collection items that has greater number than the counting number infinity, but less than the next tier of infinity, those in the real number line. something which is hard to imagine because if it were easy we would have plugged that infinity tier into our tiering system.

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        Thanks!

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    If there was one, would that imply cardinality might be continuous rather than discrete?

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