Some 8,790 Americans sought citizenship in the UK, either through registration or naturalisation in 2025, according to Home Office data published Thursday.
Like most US folks, I wish I had job flexibility and the money to just up and emigrate. Alas most have no choice but to stay.
My only option is arguably worse than the US. Only positive is that I could go to the beach more.
limited for those that dont have a spouse, PHD, MD, or some kind of niche speciality that isnt demand in other country. or you are unable to apply for grad school in those countries.
I gave up my career and started over in something entirely different at a paltry salary, but I got out.
I totally understand your decision, but historically emigration is FILLED with stories of even professionals like doctors and engineers needing to accept very low paid wage work and re-credentialing in exchange for a longer term reset in a better country.
Again, I absolutely get it - but that’s not the same thing as “no choice”.
Can confirm, I cut my salary in half to escape
i think doctors and scientists would have an easier intergrating than othe rprofessionals, givien how they arnt making a complete change in thier career, just “relocation”, plus the benefits of being one these groups.
You still have to have the money to move, be healthy enough to be accepted by the new country, etc. For many many people there is no choice. None. Often those that need it most.
Not blaming anyone that has the agency to leave. But it is what it is.
Where are all the racists who claim that they aren’t racist for wanting to deport black and brown people? You know? All those reform voters who insist its not a race thing? Why arent they kicking off about all of the americans trying to come over?
I’m guessing none of these Americans are trans.
By making the move they would by definition be trans.
Transatlantic.
As bad as it is, it would still be an improvement compared to the US for them.
I mostly agree, but if my sister were fleeing the fascism here in the US I would recommend she pick a safer place, since the trajectory of the UK, while different from ours, still doesn’t look great.
The situation over there is as bad as here. Fascism isnt confined to the americas
I know people who’s parents immigrated to the US from Mexico. Their parents worked under-the-table jobs and hard blue collar jobs so their children could have a better life than them. Those same children are grown up now and applying for Mexican citizenship just in case.
My mom came from the UK. Even though I was born in the US, it was long enough ago that I also have British Citizenship by default (even though I’ve only ever spent 4 weeks of my life there on vacations). Filed the paperwork and got my British passport last year just in case….
Ngl if China was an actual democracy, I would probably about trying to keep Chinese citizenship…
but unfortunately there’s a CCP problem there and I hate them so that’s not an option for me.
Why the fuck would anyone want to go to the UK? It is Trumpland, but with a accent.
Because most Americans can only speak English. And Australia is really far away.
isn’t Australia just as bad if not worse?
They just banned corporations from donating to politicians. So. Maybe not really. They also don’t have a trump.
but they do have a Murdoch…
and a NSW…
Hey man… Murdoch is fair play…but this was meant to be a clean fight, no need to hit below the belt. They’re ashamed enough about it, don’t gotta rub it in their face all the time…
I’m getting the popcorn, because murdoch’s kids are fighting about newscorp and who is gonna control it. I think lachlan is in the lead atm?
I’m sure whoever ends up in charge it’ll definitely be an improvement…🙄
Heavy on the /S here
If only there was someplace closer
I think people don’t like the cold.
I’ve got good news and bad news
We haven’t gone anywhere near being Trump land yet. And the Trump party (Reform) just got wrecked in an election yesterday.
You seem to somehow have missed the whole Brexit shitshow, including the Tory party becoming openly Anti-Immigrant, Racist and ultra-nationalist with massive national delusions of grandeur (made oh so painfully obvious when the pranced into the EU exit negotiation loudly proclaiming they held all the cards, ultimatilly showing that they did not and not getting the things they wanted the most).
(And lets not forget Britain’s very own version of Trump: Boris Johnson)
You also seem to have missed the insane Civil Society Surveillance levels as disclosed in the Snowden Revelations and the recent legislation forcing Britons to ID themselves on the Internet, which is now being further tightenned with proposed restrictions to VPN use.
And lets not forget the anti-Demonstration legislation of the last decade as well as the anti-Terrorism legislation and how it was recently used to arrest anti-Genocide demonstrators as “Terrorism Supporters”.
This is not normal in Democracy.
I’ve lived in multiple countries in Europe, including Britain, and in my view the UK is the most Fascist country in Europe after Belarous and Russia, it’s just that British politicians don’t play the loud and obnoxious strongman role like Trump or Orban, they play the posh vaguelly aristocratic type who rather than fight the Justice System subverts it to make it a tool to punish those of the riff-raff who are a bit more uppity, hence things like using anti-Terrorism legislation to crack down on those who demonstrate against His Majesty’s Government’s active support of Genocide.
Granted, given how far the Overtoon Window is to the Right in Britain, I can understand that whilst those outside see the present day Tories as a Far-Right party, for those inside that kind of politics is now so normalized that it’s hard for most to recognize just how Far-Right the present day Tories are both in broader European terms and even in historical British terms, so they only see the even-more-Far-Right insane nutters of Reform as Far-Right.
Mind you in my experience the shift to and normalization of the Far-Right is one of the things Britain is ahead of the rest of Europe in: I’m seing happening were I am now the kind of thing I saw happen in Britain over a decade ago.
Ironically the only reform supporter I encountered is my brother who now lives in Australia.
He doesn’t like immigrants, we’re English… … umm
Especially when Ireland is right there!
Ireland has shitty phd programs
I’m in England and feel you’re on the money there. Their economy is booming with lots of US companies utilising their tax efficient policies.
You get the best of both worlds and hey, Americans are always saying they’re Irish so they’re going back to their motherland
yeah, I did a gene test and it turns out I’m 0.000001% irish. I may as well move there! (/s)
Céad míle fáilte!
It’s somewhat telling that you comment implies that everyone else has an accent and you don’t :)
Having lived there, I agree that Britain is the most Fascist nation in Europe after Belarous and Russia, though theirs is the Posh Aristocratic version, so it’s not as loud and obvious as “strongman” Fascism.
Probably not the people who are affected the most by their government.
Seems like trading one shitty situation for another, UK’s government is fucked too, isn’t it?
It’s not good with all the bollocks they’re currently doing but wait until the current PM hands the next election to Nigel Farage and Reform (Republican-lite). It will get a lot worse then.
Yup. Andrew and the diplomat are in trouble for leaking intelligence to Epstein not the kids. The UK is still all in on Orwellian AI surveillance and still Israel’s #2 bitch.
I mean, you don’t just get shot on the street legally, and we don’t have ICE (yet), and not everything is a complete scam… But maybe in 20 years we’ll be there. Hopefully the UK takes a different route, and I doubt the “infrastructure” is there to go full “legal slavery and for profit prisons” British MAGA to begin with.
No dude, you have IP cameras rolled out alread, you’re primed for the AI surveillance state by 2029. You’re also just as deep in Israel’s blackmail book and they probably have most of your state secrets (which is why the prosecutions, they don’t care about the kids). Less violent, same destination.
You say that, but there’s stuff like Brexit and now this age verification bullshit: I’m not convinced Britain is that far behind.
Does a UK passport allow you to live in other parts of the Commonwealth than just British Isles?
It doesn’t allow residence in the “British Isles”. It would however allow residence in Ireland.
I don’t think so, sadly, but I’m not entirely sure. I’m leaning towards no. A EU passport is more flexible, and one can move to Spain and become a national somewhat quickly and then idk settle in Germany or Finland if you want to. Ofc if SHTF in Europe that’s a different story, but I guess you could in theory move to French Guyana, lol.
Move to Spain and settle in Germany or Finland?
Are you some sort of sadist?
Warum nicht?
Not inherently. Many of them do offer favorable visa terms (easier work requirements, longer stays, etc).
A UK national can live in Gibraltar, but that’s because it’s UK territory.
I believe it’s spelled “innit”
Well that’s at least what the right wing media wants you to believe.
Actually things are looking pretty good for the UK. Even Reform seems to have peaked in voter share and is on the way down. The most recent by-election is a race between greens and labour with Reform nowhere near those two.
There’s a subreeddit “GoodNewsUK” which is a pretty good reality check.
Farage’s Britain is similar-enough to Trump’s America that it’s “golden”, but it’s still less-collapsed than the US, so it’s preferable, right??
England’s monarchism, its class-religion ( rooted in monarchism, so it’s short-term irremoveable ), & its framing-games ( Brexit was a result of 1 such ) make it the most-similar to the US, except for the “patriotism” indoctrination that is normal in schools in the US…
it’s a “good” fit
it’ll have consequences for England, of course, as all population-composition-changes do…
…helping Farage’s mission…
You can transplant the body, even the life, but you aren’t changing the religion, & the US’s religion PRODUCED the US’s current-condition, exactly the same as all our countries are in the process of distilling our own national-corruption-essences into authority-institutions, as quickly as we can, because we haven’t got spine-enough to filter-out DarkTriad from authority, in ANY of our countries…
Note the numbers, though: nearly 9k asking citizenship in the UK from the US…
https://blog.hireahelper.com/2025-texas-migration-report/ over 0.26-MILLION moved to texas in the year before 2025-Oct.
Yes, the drasticness of the change is different, but when you’ve got nearly 2 orders of magnitude difference between the opportunism vs the fleeing, then you’re seeing significant evidence of national-nature.
As a US citizen told me, years ago: “you’re welcome in Texas only as long as you’re leaving: don’t try settling there, no matter where you’re from, you AREN’T welcome there”, & over the years that has become more & more validated.
Use 'em & lose 'em, right?
I “wonder” if that paradigm, in-play for workers from other-states, also is in-play for immigrant farm-workers??
/s
That the people with-means are escaping, is natural:
aren’t the oligarchs making certain that they’ve got their isolation, their coddling, & their security, including bunkers, ready & operating, for the butchering-down of the “masses”?
Why wouldn’t we who can afford to leave impending-hell zones do-so, with our families?
It’s the same principle…
We aren’t as causing-of-the-problem as the oligarchs are, but we’re still accommodating of the root-problem, & saving ourselves, leaving others to eat the coming atrocities, same as always…
That woke socialist convict, the root-guru of the Christians, Yesua benJoseph, he got in there with the people who were about-to-be-stoned-to-death, with the convicts, with the crushed, the destitute, etc, & fought for their-validity & their-rights…
No wonder he was exterminated by the privilege-conservatives of his time.
( he was conservative-of-LivingWorth, conservative-of-LivingPotential, & conservative-of-LivingOpportunity, so pretending, as the privilege-conservatives do, that THEY ALONE “own” the meaning of “conservative” is false, & always has been: they just conserve different things.
As a delightful Jewish mind on a TLC TV-show, last-century or so, identified: when benJoseph got violent on the commercial-operation of the Temple, that was an incredibly Jewish thing to do! … he was being conservative, just of the essence of Judaism, instead of its forms … & that difference is important.
All the false-framing in the world isn’t going to go-away for no reason: it has to be force-displaced! )
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Farage’s Britain
Farage holds no office and his party has 8 MPs. Almost half of them hadn’t run as Reform candidates, but instead jumped ship from the Conservatives. By comparison, Labour has 404 MPs. The fasc-friendly media would love to market Reform’s success in 2028 as inevitable, but it’s just as likely that they’ll do well in the 2026 mid-terms (which are for local government positions), then fall on their faces in 2028 once people see how fanatical and incompetent they are when they’re in office.
Also, there’s a (small) chance that Labour will unwedge its collective head and pass much-needed laws reforming foreign funding of election campaigns and transparency of party donations. If they do so, Farage will be fucked.
Imagine.
USonians immigrating into the UK.
Let’s hope they respect the tea.
I hope the UK treats the Americans the way Americans have treated immigrants.
But let’s be honest, they won’t care because they’re white so the media won’t tell the rubes to hate the white immigrants.
Reminds me of the ending of The Day After Tomorrow when US citizens had to cross the border into Mexico and seek asylum there because of (oh the irony) climate change. Would be nice schadenfraude to see.
Oh I will hate on the loud self centred Yanks if I ever have the misfortune to encounter one…
Yorkshire Tea all the way.
Meanwhile that’s about how many came into the US DAILY during Biden’s presidency.
Luckily Americans don’t speak any foreign languages so rest of Europe is safe.
This is actually pretty funny. “Who speaks my language and where can i go?”
This is 100% even though for all other languages the question would be “whose language do I speak…”!
The ones who can afford to move are the ones that statistically be more likely to speak more than one language. Learning German myself to add to my pile.
Yes learn the language, come here and then watch it turn into a populist shit hole too. It’s T minus two years…
Guten tag!
Guten morgen.
Scheisse!
Einen großen schwarzen Kaffee, bitte.
It’s the only sentence I know and, honestly, it seems to work well in most situations.
Do you always end up with filter coffee when saying this?
Das ist nicht kaffe…
Shouldn’t that be ‘Kaffees’? or “Eine grosse schwarze Kafee”?
My German is getting quite rusty, but I think I remember enough of the grammar…
The noun “Kaffee” is masculine, so normally, the nominative form would be “der Kaffee” or “ein Kaffee”. However, in OP’s sentence, it would be a direct object, making it use the accusative form of “den/einen Kaffee”. Then, the adjective will take the same ending as the article here (though the rules are weird and complex, so that’s not always the case).
Thus, “Einen grossen, schwarzen Kaffee” should be correct.
Mein leben!
Please tell me this was a Wolfenstein 3D reference. lol
Schutzstaffel!
Yuusss. lol
Not really. Thankfully it takes a bit of brains to make the move, so the world gets the USAs best.
Or gets the ones who do speak at least one foreign language, which aren’t going to be the close-minded kind that thinks everything that matters starts and stops with America, so that’s also good.
You know the US is a real shthole when people decide to move to the UK, which also is a shthole lol
I left the US for the UK well before Trump 1 and am still here. I can confidently assure you that you have no idea what you’re talking about.
While it’s far from perfect (nowhere is), our quality of life here is far better, and interactions with the authorities and law enforcement are far less brutal than they were in the US. And people here are friendlier. But then, I’m not living in London, which is crawling with driven, greedy assholes.
The problem with getting your info from headlines is that you don’t know which sources are serving an agenda rather than reporting actual news. One thing that is wrong with the UK is that its media is just as fucked as that in the US. With the exception of a few publications (the wishy-washy LibDem Guardian, the conservative contrarian Private Eye), it’s all billionaire’s bullshit. And 90% of podcasters are semiliterate knobheads who just make shit up.
Having said all that, it does rain a lot, and despite massive gains over the past few decades, the food still could do with further improvement. But when I return to the US for visits, even in progressive bubbles where my friends and family live, I’m always glad to come back here. Especially when the Greens just decisibely defeated Farage in a by-election and made Starmer look like the wanker that he is.
You will keep being fed beans on toast until morale improves.
They’re gonna be disappointed when british police arrests them for wrongthink on twitter
Well… at least they aren’t getting shot and killed by the police.
feking imigints takin er jerbs
And because this is the Internet /s
Bluuudy yanks takin me job…
Trig’s aunt had more Yanks than Eisenhower.
Well I did immigrate here like five years ago. But I kept my US job. I’ve just become a weird hermit. It’s great.
How does that work? Aren’t you still paying quite a bit of US taxes, and then also paying UK taxes?
The two have a taxation agreement, you only pay tax in one of them. So far, so good.























