• DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    Trump has Musk and Murdoch money behind him. Vance’s life up until this point has veen thoroughly sponsored by Peter Thiel… They all have Epstein connections… A whole lot of people should be in jail.

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    14 days ago

    Because you’re not rich. The repressive part of the US “justice” system is only for poor people.

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      14 days ago

      And they don’t want to start a precedent of prosecuting politicians for threatening to or actually killing people. That would be bad for defense contractors.

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    Simple, because he didn’t make a direct threat, didn’t direct anyone else either. Hell, he didn’t even call for her death. Trump’s using the mob boss language he learned in NYC.

    “I think OP should have 9 guns pointed in his face for posting this.”

    See how that works? All I said was that you should be threatened. Didn’t threaten action myself nor direct anyone else to action.

    Speech like this is clearly stochastic terrorism, but the US really doesn’t have laws around it. I would hope there’s an incitement angle to this, IANAL, but our strong 1A rights make it sticky.

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    14 days ago

    I know it’s different from a call to arms which is illegal. Maybe it’s assault? Like another user said, money and power makes a difference in what you can get away with.

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      You could make a case that based on his other comments and stochastic terrorist language that what he said was dangerous, but those claiming that this specific instance was a threat either didn’t listen closely to what he said (you don’t give someone facing a firing squad a rifle of their own), or just listen to those media reports who are purposefully spreading disinformation.

      He has made plenty of statements that are prosecutable, people don’t need to grasp at straws.

      To answer the question, yeah if you said the same thing Trump did about Cheney, you’d be fine. It wasn’t a threat. He said give her a rifle and put her on the front lines if she’s so eager to have a war, see how she feels then.

      That’s said, Vote. Vote for Harris. While Trump didn’t advocate for putting Cheney in front of a firing squad here, he has asked his military personnel to kill citizens and next time he won’t have someone that will stop him.

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    Look guys, the law is not code. It is not if(strcmp(speech, “kill”) then return guilty();. There’s this whole concept of mens rea which means a required element of the crime is whether or not he meant it as a threat to her, which you will note requires human judgement (by a jury!) to evaluate. It is highly unlikely that anyone would take this rhetoric, violent and gross as it may be, as a plausible threat against Liz Cheney by Trump.

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    My theory to all of the BS he gets away with is because he knows who was in Epstien’s black book and who visited his island, but snuffing out an ex-president would be a bad look. So they protect him in the hope he doesn’t squeal.

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        True, possibly also all of that evidence that went missing from Epstiens house when Chump delayed the U.S. from seizing it all for 4 days.

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    13 days ago

    In the US, white, rich and influential people don’t get arrested just because they committed a crime!

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    14 days ago

    It’s also a violation of his probation, check with his probate officer when the warrant will be issued

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    Some guy in Alaska threatened to assassinate six of the justices on the supreme Court and he was pretty quickly arrested.

    Weird how that works.

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    Because Donald Trump is above the law – laws simply don’t apply to him.

    (Or at least that is how much of the country is acting, INCLUDING the US Supreme Court.)