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    Reminds me of some state laws that have been voted for, and sometimes even enacted, that defined PI as three (or worse, even 4). Just because an uneducated jokel in the White House signed a piece of paper, scientific reality won’t just bend to his wishes.

    What’s next? Will he declare Ohms law illegal? Forbid gravity?

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    Just ignore the outrage machine and focus on what things you can do to help. The outrage is only to make you tired. Sue when you must, support businesses, organizations, and politicians you agree with financially, vote in every election, don’t add to any problem, and ignore Trump and his minions to the best extent you can.

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    lol so you can just sign executive orders to declare new facts into reality? why don’t you declare people can fly, that would be cool.

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    Even setting aside people’s gender identity, 1.7% of the population is intersex. A law can’t make that untrue.

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    So why exactly are we focusing on LGBTQ+ peoples here? Obviously they are equally deserving of protections just like everyone else, but This appears to read like we’re getting rid of DEI hiring practices entirely. Seems like something that would affect all protected groups. And arguably, racial minorities are a much larger group of people that are going to be hurt by this. Focusing on the gender binary thing really feels like distraction from the wider implications this has.

    And the companies immediately coming out saying they’re ending their DEI practices before Trump was even in office really shows you how performative their adherance to the law really was. It really perfectly demonstates why we need these laws in the first place when companies are this eager to be openly against anti-discrimination.

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      Reading the orders, the gender one is much more impactful.

      Canceling DEI programs cancels those programs, which just isn’t that impactful. Maybe it slows or reverse progress on equality at the population level. But an individual is not going to notice a difference (unless they were explicitly working in administering it). Further, those DEI programs were only for federal agencies, which are going to have a much bigger culture shift from the coming idealougical and loyalty purge. Minorities are still protected by strong anti discrimination laws and the 14th amendment.

      The anti trans order, in contrast, declares that trans people don’t exist. And the entirety of the federal government must act accordingly. This will have a direct effect on every openly trans person in the country. Further, the legal protections trans people have are based entirely on an interpretation of gender discrimination laws that the current Supreme Court seems unlikely to endorse; and which Trump has directed the Attorney General to not follow.

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      Fascists.

      Edit: Whenever the question is “Who could possibly be helped by this?” the answer is “Fascists.”

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          Fascists need an “other” to demonize. They delight in the cruelty towards the “other”. The executive order gives them a sense of accomplishment, further strengthening the group bonds as they enjoy the suffering of the “other” together.

          It really is as simple as “the cruelty is the point”. It helps them because they desire to inflict cruelty, and this gives them a method for doing so.

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            I don’t think he delights in anything but having people tell him how great he is. This is textbook fascism. You got the part right thay they need an other group to demonize, just don’t think there is even that much depth to them.

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              Oh I should have been more clear: Trump’s supporters delight in cruelty towards others. You’re right that Trump just does whatever makes his supporters cheer for him; he’s a textbook narcissist who craves attention. “Build the wall” for example, was a talking point his advisers gave him. He apparently thought it was stupid, but when his crowds of supporters cheered for it he went on to make it central to his campaign and identity.

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              And the lesson the rank-and-file never seem to learn is once the other is eliminated, the fascists always turn inward, and begin eliminating each other. Unfortunately, their death toll is always quite high once they implode – sometimes in the millions.

              It’s a death cult, though, and no matter how white or pious or privileged you think you are, they will come for you once they run out of ‘proper’ enemies, because without an enemy, fascism is nothing.

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          It gives justification for discrimination. To make people who disagree or are affected less than human and thus atrocities against them do not count as atrocities.

          No different than colonization or slavery. “We know better and will show them the error of their ways/put them in their place by force and systematic discrimination”.

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          Because it is a clear demonstration of “We can do whatever the fuck we want, and you can’t stop us,” as well as a warning: “Don’t piss us off, or we’re going to do it to you next.”

          [email protected]

          Edit: Also a message to other fascists: “You can do whatever you want, and they can’t stop you.”

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      I have a joke about this:

      Someone once asked a Republican what he thought about a shooting in a Queer bar, he responded “thats horrible, I hear a Muslim did it. Those dirty savages will never integrate with western values”.

      So the person responded “oh so do you care about queer people now?”, he responded “of course not, they harm womens rights”.

      So the person responded “oh so do you support womens rights now?”, he responded “of course not, I think the rights of children should take precedence”.

      So he responded “oh so do you care about the children now?”, he responded “of course not, they’re leaches on society. I only support hardworking Americans”.

      So he responded “Oh so do you support workers rights now?”, he responded “of course not, workers today are lazy, I support only the good religious Jewish and Christian workers”

      So he responded “Oh so do you support Jewish people now?”, he responded “Of course not, I hear they’re extremely Islamaphobic”

      So he responded “Oh so do you support Muslim people now?”, he responded “of course not, I hear one of them shot up a queer bar”

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        No, not at all, but typically politicians frame it that way. They gave up on that, I guess. Now it’s just who can I hurt.

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          There’s loads of historical examples of policies in acted to hurt people

          …because those people are “inferior” people

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    I wonder what their approach to intersex people will be…

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        Please, anyone who reads this, stop posting links to the mobile version of Wikipedia. It doesn’t switch automatically on PC, and I see it happen all the time. Just take the half a second to remove the “.m” from the beginning of the link, save everyone else from the pain of having to be surprised by it and taking the time to do it themselves.

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          Ignoring the content of the link, and following this passive and erroneous line of discussion: I did it on a phone, not on a PC where you on the PC can more easily change it. Not going to be scolded because I strictly didn’t follow your arbitrary rules.

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            I only complain because I see it happen a lot, and because Wikipedia automatically corrects links for mobile users but not desktop ones. It’s not intended to be scolding, just a request for you to be more aware of such things.

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              Then request Wikipedia change their web design for bifurcating mobile users into a subdomain. The CSS is detecting the browser implementation anyways, so do it all on the backend in one single domain.

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                For real, I’m not going to make your problem my problem, this is a wikipedia issue, you’re in the wrong channels.

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            You can’t edit text on your phone? How are you posting these comments?

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      Well, Trump says there are only two biological genders, but he said nothing about what percentage of each a person is allowed to have.

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    Even ignoring socially constructed gender identities, in the case of biological sexes, this is scientifically wrong. The world doesn’t fit into neat little boxes like these people think it does

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    whats next, an executive order stating black people are only 3/5th of a white person? c02 isnt rising in volume in the atmosphere? that he isnt a literal hitler wannabe?

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        Supreme court will soon say the law doesn’t have to abide actual science or reality in general (if they haven’t already).

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    these fascist dipshits are everything they claim to hate. we are expected to just accept “their truth” when all of the evidence suggests otherwise, so pathetic.

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    I literally have to wonder if my NC Birth Certificate (updated to reflect my Gender Affirming Care) will still be valid or if I’ll get a letter saying they found an “Error” and “corrected it”

    I have to worry about the Government turning my boyfriend into a homosexual by declaring me a man, how the fuck do we even get here?

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      I’m sure soon the Xestapo will pay a visit to deliver your new corrected documents

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          You pick a location near you and it lists known orgs that provide aid in any manner near you. Some people have used this to organize safe passage out of red states or support if you don’t want to leave. Make sure to verify what the resource is beforehand.

          If you’re concerned about commsec I’m happy to contact any aid org on your behalf. I’m also working on an open I2P proxy for activists and at risk populations so that people can communicate and organize efforts in places where their rights are at risk or non-existent.

          There’s also Arti nodes or more traditional Tor nodes as well. At least communicate through Signal if you’re going to be organizing efforts and stay off of anything Meta or twitter related.

          Edit: the general nature of the site is why I said it may not be of help to you but it might be of help to others. You’re now on a list as a trans person in what is likely to be a trans exclusionist state and may know others in the community who could use any resource. I’m not one to assume your needs and I wish you all the best to you and your husband.