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      Let’s be real no threat is needed. If this made them win craploads of money they would be plastering Disney world with transexual parades every second of the day

      The fact that they are not doing it says a lot

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    Disus Christ enters chat - because Disney and Jesus are now brothers.

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    Religion or LGBT is a false dichotomy and shit like this just fuels division.

    Fuck you Disney

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      Really hope Jesus makes his comeback via an appearance on RuPaul. The bible does say it will be unexpected.

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        The stories in the bible happened long ago. There arent any prophecies reaching into our age.

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          (Actual inquiry, I don’t know): Really? There is no rupture or some sort of apocalyse in the new testament?

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            Nah, the thing that Christians claim is the antichrist was the description of Nero.

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              As someone that doesn’t belive in the bible, the whole antichrist being nero thing doesn’t add up. Nero reigned from 54 AD to 68 AD while the book of revelation, the one with the antichrist prophecies and that was published in 95 AD. I’ve heard the explanation that it was code, but why would they have to have code for someone that died 27 years before they wrote the code?

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                The word antichrist isnt meantioned in the bible, only John does mention it.

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                  The gnostic nag hamadi also mentions the antichrist and that was written at least the 2nd century. Interestingly they say the antichrist will have a female likeness which makes sense if you entertain it because if the antichrist is meant to be the complete opposite of christ, why wouldn’t they identify as female?

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            That’s what the heritage Foundation is trying to achieve, yes. Trump is playing the part of the antichrist, musk is the beast. I’m mostly concerned about how they interpret “lake of fire”.

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      Yup. Disney doesn’t stand for anything. They just pander to wherever they think the money is.

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      Rainbow capitalism, I’ve looked into LGBTq+ forums, subs it hurts the community and movements more than it helps them

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        See, I actually agree with a lot of people who say they hate “Woke Things”

        Because 7 out of 10 times, they’re just mad at Rainbow Capitalism trying and failing to pander to “t3h gays”, but for some reason believe that “t3h gays” asked for it, when in reality we did not… the other 3 times nothing’s wrong and “Woke” is just code for “There was a black guy who did something outside of be comic relief, but if I said that aloud people would call me racist… Which I am”

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      Priesthood was a religious answer for gay men historically, before more modern sects that are openly accepting. The modern non-denominational Christian churches are just cancer.

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    Better headline, “Disney toes the line for Nazi scum, and Walt himself was a Nazi sympathiser even after Kristallnacht. EPCOT was his fascistic wet dream. Fuck Disney throughout time.”

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      Never heard of EPCOT before, quickly scanned over the Wikipedia article:

      what’s the problem of that theme park?

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        Before he died, the idea of EPCOT was to create his vision of an actual city, not just a park attraction. I read a quote from him about it that seems very much in the vein of Mussolini’s idea of fascism as the fusion of corporate and state power,

        “There will be no landowners and therefore no voting control. People will rent houses instead of buying them, and at modest rentals. There will be no retirees; everyone must be employed.”

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          Oh yeah they actually did make that Disney Town, it was a dystopian nightmare and failed horribly.

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          Aahh, see? Now that is more problematic than the article about a folkloric world theme park I read.

          But it’s also not exactly new, company towns were already a sad part of our reality. Luckily we got over it, but rich people of course always want to get back to it.

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            We never got over it, they just use 401ks to control our futures now, and corporate owned housing is why rents are too high for us to do anything but work, eat, scroll, and sleep. If we stop to protest we’re in danger of homelessness.

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              At this point there are only two rational viewpoints on the world situation.

              1. The system is broken and needs to be fixed
              2. The system is working as intended and must be destroyed

              I aint exactly Robbie Rotten singing “We Are Number 1” if you catch my cold.

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    This is the first openly Christian character to feature in a Disney film since 2007’s Bridge to Terabithia.

    So it’s not really the first then, is it?

    An exclusive poll for Newsweek conducted by Redfield and Wilton Strategies in July found that 34 percent of viewers disapproved of Disney’s attempt to add more LGBTQ+ topics to its content.

    This I never understand. If Disney is a for profit company, why would they not listen to their majority? Aren’t they leaving money on the table like this? “Well, because of Trump.” Yeah but how does that matter, specifically? (The article does not go in to detail about that) Is Trump going to compensate them for it??

    This article isn’t very well written. Many such cases, sadly.

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      Isn’t Captain America Christian too? Like, he openly says there’s only one God, he goes to church etc.

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      Is Disney publicly traded? Because you’re not taking into account stock trading in the insane-o market where speculation on possible public opinion can devalue a product by 100% for 2 days. They could be losing possible trade money if that 34% disapproval caused stockholders to short before other people sold and the prices go into freefall.

      It all makes sense.

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      Is Trump going to compensate them for it??

      I mean, considering his pettiness, probably. Either with carrot or stick, he wants to be heard and wants people to bend over backwards to gain his approval. In exchange, he might do a tax cut or two for those who manage to please him, while he’ll try to crush those who oppose him.

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      Because it’s not about majority rules but the bottom line.

      In other words, those 30 some odd percent could be so disgusted by LGBT content that they will cancel. Or stir shit up and cause a boycott. Where as the majority just really doesn’t care one way or the other.

      The majority may be vocal about this, but that doesn’t matter as long as the bottom line isn’t affected.

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      The majority doesn’t approve of more LGBT characters either, it’s just Newsweek being intentionally misleading.

      In summary, 36 percent disapproved in some form, 34 percent approved, while 31 percent neither approved nor disapproved, or didn’t know how they felt.

      I’d venture the majority of people prefer a good story. When you shoehorn any elements into a story it distracts the audience. The Star Trek Beyond Lt Sulu scene is a good example it did not provide any character or story development. Many of the star wars shows have similar elements which hurt an all ready damaged story.

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      My interpretation is less about pandering to the perceived majority and more about avoiding drawing negative attention from the Trump/Musk administration which is clearly very petty and very receptive to virtue signals. Do they kiss the ring? They get special treatment. Do they do something perfectly within their rights that Trump doesn’t like? He’ll find some way to make them hurt for it and take whatever concessions they offer to avoid being hurt

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      Note your comment states 34 percent disagree, but didn’t state how many didn’t care one way or the other, or rate the relative likelihood of spending money or refusing to based on the stance.

      The snowflake conservatives may be more likely to get offended and boycott. It may be that 50 percent didn’t care either way, so the trade off becomes 34 versus 16 percent. I suppose from another comment it seems like their poll returned approximately 1/3rd disliked, 1/3rd wanted, and 1/3rd didn’t care. So they can probably have their cake and eat it too by waffling a bit on the issue to have both sides buying up their preferred content to “prove” to Disney the right way to go, even if they boycott the current “wrong” mindset, they may want to spend on their favored content to steer things. But those thirds still don’t reflect the nuance of how much they like/dislike to know if liking LGBT inclusion is a “good on them, even though I’m not that personally invested” or more “I will not give them a dime if they don’t have inclusion”.

      Of course they may also be concerned about their place in a potential authoritarian state and aligning themselves is a way to avoid being a target. If after all of the doom and gloom turn out to be wrong and progressives come back in a few years, then they just have to have their logo be rainbow colored for a bit and have a few progressive characters and all will be forgiven.

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    Disney be like: “Friendship ended with rainbow capitalism, now christian capitalism is my best friend.”

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    it was only a matter of time. Ms Marvel had openly Muslim characters and Turning Red had Buddhists.

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        Crazy how they just gave up on the Narnia series. You’d think the original YA novel series would have been easy to punch up and deliver as AAA Cinema slop. Instead the whole thing fell apart inside three films (the first two of which were fairly well received, and riding tight on the LotR blockbuster adaptation, to boot).

        I guess it was just too many characters, too much technical expertise, and too much hard work. Far easier to release a bunch of Sound of Freedom tier psycho-sexual thrillers. Something you can film with a handy cam, a fist full of confused child actors, and a dime bag of columbian white to get Jim Caviezel zooted out of his gord.

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          Man that third one was such a mess too. I don’t understand how they fucked up so bad.

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    Well now I can say Disney is woke. They woke up to kiss the ring and bow down to a fucking shit lip.

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    Does this Christian character get made fun of all the time for being out of touch with reality? Is this why Kathleen is out, too much jesus? lol, probably not.

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      Christians rarely get made fun of media, evangelicals will throw a fit. To give an example supernatural show had to shoehorn “God” as the original creator to non Christian gods and religions, the writers were afraid of the snowflake christians

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      Nah, they just made her whiter and the dwarves a white supremacist survivalist militia.

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        I mean, my sister killed that movie for me when I was a kid, just like Little Mermaid.

        But now that I have a choice, I choose not to watch those movies.

        But if you want to change a German folklore story that was written in 1812 with a bunch of stupid ideologies, you can watch it all you want lol

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        No. Their religion was just a part of their character from the beginning. They didn’t have to “come out” as religious.

        The very notion that someone has to “come out” as Christian is an absurdity. Christians aren’t a persecuted group, although they would like you to think they were. They want so badly to be the victims, but they’re really the oppressor.

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    I wonder how China will react. Plus for them: no trans character. Minus for them: replaced with Christian insurgent.

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      If China just goes pro LGBT, it’ll be a clear sign that despite China being China, it might be time to move to China.

      That to me would be a predecessor of brain drain.

      Smart people are kinky af.

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        “If only the oppressive government in a foreign country would stop oppressing my minority it would be a safe indicator to move there on a large scale, surely they would welcome outsiders raised on a western mindset into their homogenous society”

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    I feel like these corps did a calculation and figured out everyone has an excuse to not boycott companies like Disney except right wingers who have become exceptionally good at the boycott.

    In my experience those people will typically boycott brands as a group meanwhile my friends find every excuse in the book to support the major corps hurting them. Even aoc went to Florida during covid. And people wonder why they win.

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      The worst part is Conservatives actually ARE NOT good at boycotts

      Just look at how badly the Bud Light boycott failed, and the reason why was because drinkers boycotted Bud Light and then started drinking… Other beers made by literally the same company.

      And of course there were the people who bought Jerseys just to turn around and burn them in order to protest the NFL.

      Then again I broke my own rules and ate at a Chic-Fil-A for the first time in years, because I was depressed and the thing in my head that drops sadness hormones told me it’d shut up if I got waffle fries dipped in ranch, so… You kinda still have a point

      To be fair it was my first Chic-Fil-A meal in like 9 years, and on the Black Out Day I did shop yes, but I did so at a Locally Owned Chain that is owned by a Gay Guy who donates to Food Banks… Avoiding ALL gas stations despite having a quarter tank left…

      But still… we all need to practice self-awareness

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        Leftists are already trying to fuck megacorps over, why would they try and placate them?

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          They continue to throw money at JK Rowling

          YMMV, but in my ‘woke’ crowd, nobody’s buying that merch anymore. The only people I know still doing harry potter themed crap all voted rightwing.

          The last thing I saw come through was the game. A few of the left-leaning gamers bought it but way less than baulders and starfield.

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            Hogwarts legacy was a major success. Almost a million players the first day of launch and that’s only on steam.

            Even now, that 2 years old game has more people playing it than Avowed which just launched relatively recently LMAO 🤣. Again, that’s only on steam.

            Iw we added PSN and Nintendo, it would totally crush it

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              It certainly didn’t launch to crickets. But I could have had millions more players s***** ass worldviews to herself

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              To be fair JK had nothing to do with that, that was all Avalanche Studios… and someone actually crunched the numbers and literally JK gets more in a single day of Universal Studios ticket sales than she did from lifetime sales of that game.

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            This, in my circle the only Harry Potter merch I see people rocking is either at least a decade old or was bought at a convention at a booth selling fanmade merch.

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        This leftist has boycotted everything Sony since they bricked my PC with their rootkit in the early 2000s (and I really go out of my way to make sure nothing Sony related comes in my house, not their music, movies, games, electronics, nor their camera lenses) I only slipped up once in the past 20 or so years, when I purchased a second hand Sony Walkman mp3 player. Thing broke within 3 months of use, it’s now a constant reminder that I really need to keep boycotting Sony.

        I’ve started boycotting Amazon (including but not limited to Kindle, Audible, Prime and Twitch) and Disney since this year.

        But I’m only one person.

        I have shown myself to be capable of long term boycotts and I don’t intend to let up. I’ve added Amazon’s websites to my Pihole’s blacklist.

        But I also don’t pirate their stuff. As far as I’m concerned their TV shows and movies and such don’t exist on this planet.

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          When They fucked me over on my PS3 linux install, I had a Sony TV, A Sony receiver, 2 Playstations and a ton of games.

          They’re all long gone now.

          Never again