Black hole cosmology suggests that the Milky Way and every other observable galaxy in our universe is contained within a black hole that formed in another, much larger, universe.

The theory challenges many fundamental models of the cosmos, including the idea that the Big Bang was the beginning of the universe.

It also provides the possibility that black holes within our own universe may be the boundaries to other universes, opening up a potential scenario for a multiverse.

Mine blown 🤯

  • dohpaz42@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Whoa.

    If this is true, this makes sense to me. Right or wrong, I’ve never been comfortable with the idea of infinite, endless space. Like God just existing for all time, never having a start or a stop is a cheap way of admitting we just don’t know, and may never know. Why does “God” and the universe get to be treated differently than everything else? Things come from other things.

    I digress. I have often daydreamed that our universe only appears infinite because it’s actually a sphere or a bubble, and what we see as infinite is merely a reflection of our finite space like an infinity mirror would look.

    But those ideas are just that: daydreams. If anything, I hope that the scientific and academic communities can keep open minds and not dismiss these radical ideas because it contradicts their religious fervor.

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      Can’t i just have one article that doesn’t mention that fat sack of shit. This is actually really interesting physics, and you had to go and ruin it.

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      The real Trump Derangement Syndrome is when you can’t stop posting his name even on completely unrelated topics.

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      Yo, can we get like 5 minutes to revel in the non-political, world-changing good news?

      To quote a wise man:

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        Yo mama’s so fat, her mass affects the spin of galaxies! Or her mass is affecting our perception of those galaxies. We’re not sure yet.

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      The research was published in Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society, in a study titled ‘The distribution of galaxy rotation in JWST Advanced Deep Extragalactic Survey’.

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      Some of the findings match a pre-existing pipe dream but this boring alternative is pretty neat too:

      The latest findings do not provide definitive proof of black hole cosmology, with more evidence required to fully understand the implications.

      Shamir noted that an alternative explanation for why most of the galaxies in the study rotate clockwise is that the Milky Way’s rotational velocity is having an impact on the measurements.

      “If that is indeed the case, we will need to re-calibrate our distance measurements for the deep universe,” said Shamir.

      "The re-calibration of distance measurements can also explain several other unsolved questions in cosmology such as the differences in the expansion rates of the universe and the large galaxies that according to the existing distance measurements are expected to be older than the universe itself.”

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        Okay so I have a basic understanding of orbital mechanics, I would say astronomy and astrophysics is a hobby of mine, and my content subscription list is filled with space nerds talking about nerdy space stuff.

        I do not understand how the rotation of the milky way could be making it seem as though other galaxies are rotating a specific direction.

        I understand if you spin in place and are looking at something above you that’s spinning in a certain way, it might appear to spin the opposite way it is relative to the floor, because you’re spinning faster. However, my problem understanding stems from the fact that the milky way is huge and we are rotating around a very large axis, not at a rate that my common sense tells me would be noticeable.

        Maybe I’m just not giving NASA and ESA enough credit for their measurement capabilities, but I don’t get it.

        And maybe I’m so far off base someone is face-palming into their screen in disappointment that I could choose be so wrong.

        If anyone could explain, or post a link to a space nerd talking about nerdy space stuff thats relevant to the answer, please edumacate me!

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          Yeah it’s like either I don’t understand 3D space or they don’t. Clockwise to what? What if you go stand on the South Pole, does it all reverse? Maybe they need to read Enders Game again.

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      It is an observation consistent with black hope cosmology, but other explanations are possible too, so nobody is claiming it’s proof

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    much larger universe than this? are you fucking kidding? we might just as well die then.

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      we might just as well die

      Because it’s not what you expected?
      I can assure you, whatever you expected is just as strange and absurd as this.

      Let me put this in another way:
      To think that time might have not existed, then started up at some point, breaks my brain.
      To think that time might go on for infinity in the past, with no starting point, also breaks my brain.

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        No because it is just so crushingly huge. I mean maybe humanity could understand and even partially explore the universe at some point. But trying to understand a universe within a universe, fuck that. Whose to say it is not a sequence of universes?

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    I like these observations and theories, despite them being the ramblings of very ignorant creatures (all of us as a species).

    This said, we don’t have evidence to suggest we aren’t the most intelligent creatures to ever exist. It seems very, very unlikely… But, such is the rarity of life so far as we’ve observed.

    So… These are lots of fun! If not for any other reason, than for the reason of humbling us all.