Most American thing I can think of.

  • Libra00@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    Hogs are big business here in Texas, where you can pay a couple thousand bucks to shoot them with a machine gun from a helicopter all day, so… what’s the problem? :P

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      8 days ago

      The problem is that there are not nearly enough people that hunt to even keep the population stable through hunting. The fact that hog hunting has become a business is the reason that real solutions to wiping out feral populations aren’t making headway.

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        7 days ago

        This right here. I fell down the “wild boar problem” rabbit hole a couple years ago. I was curious about what controls have been tried and what could be done to bring things back into balance. The statistic I read said that 75000 boars must be killed per year in Texas just to keep their numbers stable there. Holy hell. That’s a lot of dangerous game hunting.

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          If I was going to guess, the actual numbers killed are far, far lower than that. Especially since there are a lot of very large private hunting preserves that intentionally try to keep their feral pig population high so that they can attract paying hunters.

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        8 days ago

        Oh I know, I was being sarcastic, doing the typical redneck ‘lol we shootin’ ‘em fer fun, what’s the problem?!’ type thing.

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          7 days ago

          When I moved out of Texas in 2016, some friends told me there was a $5 bounty for hog tails from the state. So, you could do it for more than fun; less than a dollar a round for .308, then 5 dollars per tail… that’s a decent profit.

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            6 days ago

            Man, I wish good .308 ammo was only $1/round… Even if I’m loading it myself, good 6.5CM ammo (defined as sub-MOA performance) costs about $1/ea. with Hornady 147gr ELD-M bullets, and that’s only if I ignore how much I’ve sunk into a press and case prep.

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              6 days ago

              Yeah, this was before the industry decided on their panic price increaes. It’s weird how post panic prices never corrected. Going shooting is almost painful now on the wallet.

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                5 days ago

                A lot of the prices have corrected, just not all the way down to pre-pandemic level. I remember that primers were flat-out unavailable for a long time, then they were breaking $.10/ea for really cheap SPPs. 9mm ammo was >50cpr for a while, too. Both are down now, but not down to the $.03 for primers, or 20cpr for 9mm. Some of it is inflation in general. Some of it is that there are more people buying guns and ammo now, and there’s a pretty sharp lag between demand and production, since no one wants to build new factories for temporary demand spikes; increased demand is driving up prices. Also, fun fact, a lot of companies that make AR-15s are getting very close to insolvency right now. Each person only needs so many AR-15 variants, and the market is super-saturated. That’s less of an issue with ammo, since it’s a consumable, but it still worries the companies that would be building new plants.

                Yeah, I still wish ammo was a lot cheaper, but it is what it is. Instead of high-volume shooting, it means more time dry-firing.

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            7 days ago

            Assuming you’re a good shot and can hit a moving target. More than a couple-three rounds per hog and you start getting into marginal territory.

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    8 days ago

    Probably not the same animals that need to be controlled, but boar is delicious!

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      7 days ago

      Only the babies. The testosterone makes them nasty af as they get older.

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      8 days ago

      You should see the damage a single pig can do. I have. And I like pigs, have a pet pot belly.

      They are the only animals I will shoot on sight, no questions asked. And I wouldn’t shoot a squirrel.

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        6 days ago

        Pigs aren’t trying to eat you. I would shoot a polar bear on sight. They are one of few animals that will intentionally hunt humans for food.

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      7 days ago

      Wolves eat what ever is easiest to kill like endagered species that cant get away.

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          8 days ago

          Wild hogs live in “packs” (“sounders”, actually. Lulz.) as well. On all fronts, the hogs should win. Some of the bigger hogs could easily outweigh a wolf 5:1.

          These creatures are what nightmares are made of and I wish I could say I was joking or being sarcastic.

          Could a pack of wolves separate a hog from its pack and kill it? Sure. Not all hogs are hell-spawn. Regardless, we are also talking about mother nature’s true version of Medusa.

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    8 days ago

    “Legit question for rural Americans – How do I kill the 30-50 feral hogs that run into my yard within 3-5 mins while my small kids play?"

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      7 days ago

      You actually have to lure the hogs into a pen with multiple exits, drop the gates, and gun them down before they can manage an escape. You also should be very vigilant and listen well for any nearby hogs, the adult females tend to be smarter and more cautious but they’re the targets you NEED to kill.

      Failure to catch all of the hogs will allow the others to learn and adapt to the traps, and failure to kill the females will result in their population continuing to grow.

      Other effective methods are clap traps and spike pits but those don’t work well when you have children or other animals. There is also the M44 cyanide pill shooting trap made for Coyotes but idk if it works on Hogs.

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      8 days ago

      Give the kids guns too.

      That was intended to sound sarcastic, but most kids I knew in rural America have been around guns since they were big enough to carry them. I personally started shooting a .22 when I was in kindergarten and was just hardly big enough to shoot a 30-06 when I was about 10 or so. (I am very much the liberal gun owner type, btw.)

      While I can’t change the past, I do find myself questioning the logic of my experience at times. For yet another direction shift, my girls are both trained in gun safety, but that started years before I let them even touch a gun.

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        Yeah. I grew up around guns. I was shooting 22s early like you, had a compact shotgun by the age of 10, etc.

        We didn’t live in the country, so while we had guns in the house, we did NOT have ammunition in the house until I was 15 or so, just in case me or my sister ever decided to play with a gun. We bought ammo on the way to the range or the hunt, and anything we didn’t shoot was given to a family member.

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        8 days ago

        I’ve been shooting since I was about 5 too.

        I haven’t in many years, but I think I was 10 or 11 when my dad got me a 20 gauge.

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    8 days ago

    But how will Americans justify their private arsenals if they don’t have 30-50 feral hogs running into their yards while their small kids play?

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    8 days ago

    Just launch all the nukes and make them all detonate to equally cover the entire continental US with fire and radiation … BOOM! … no more wild pigs!