• stickly@lemmy.world
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    If CK2 taught me one thing, it’s that claim wars automatically end when the claimant dies. As soon as putin keels over all the red flagged armies in Ukraine will go neutral and have to walk back home.

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      15 days ago

      My worry is that if Putin is on his death bed that he will launch the nukes because he wants to take the world with him. Trump would probably do the same.

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        I very highly doubt that Putin would do this. Putin isn’t a genius, but he’s nowhere near being an idiot. He knows if he did that, Russia would die with the rest of the world. And he’s never given any sort of hint that he’s the kind of person that wants the whole world to die with him.

        Not only that, but like the United States, it isn’t actually Putin who launches the nukes. And there are historical instances of Russian nuclear officers refusing to launch nukes. I honestly trust the warmongering, imperialist dictator Putin not to launch more than I trust our own president, and that’s terrifying to think about. Because Trump IS exactly the sort of person to order a nuclear launch because he’s throwing a hissy fit and believes the myth of American exceptionalism.

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        I honestly don’t think this, but who knows. What could be a bad result is some worse leader stepping in or a coup requiring force to execute, then that person flexing their power with an even more violent purge. That seems to happen with unplanned changes of power. They have to kill the “offspring” of the previous leader and eliminate criticism or competition.

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        It doesn’t really matter, even if he gives the order, nobody will push the button for him. Unless NATO tanks are rolling over the border or rockets are falling on Moscow, military commanders will not choose to end their lives (along millions).

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          I used to believe this too, but I’m not so sure anymore. Look at how pathetic and groveling Republicans are around Trump. The cult is real, the propaganda is strong, and people are weak minded.

          I just can’t help but think of that scene in Conan the Barbarian where Thulsa Doom shows Conan what is true power - people listening to his orders without any care for their wellbeing (the scene where the girl jumps to her death because Thulsa Doom told her to jump). People do this type of shit for religions, and a cult is a religion

    • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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      I’m worried that he actually died during his first term (when he caught COVID) and was replaced with a younger stunt double - and that they could just keep doing this forever. I mean, it wouldn’t be that much more unbelievable than what’s already happened.

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          He said for a long time. Trumps first presidency was disorganized random shit. Not something to save a bottle for. Besides, even if there was a bottle from 2016-2020, I think it would have been used in 2020 when Biden won. At the time, you’d assume that would be the end of trump, but he’s like a cockroach. Still though, that bottle would be gone. So I think it’s more likely the second bottle would be for Mitch McConnell.

          Yeah. He STILL exists. Forgot about him, didn’t ya?

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    There’s probably a bunch of also bad people waiting in line to take his place. But would still celebrate his death though.

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      Yes, there are bad people waiting, but whoever comes in would be a fool to keep the Ukraine war going.

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      At least whoever takes over next has good reason to rescind the war effort. Unlike the panty poisoner who is locked into this by his imperious attitude

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      After Stalin it took more than 50 years for anyone to achieve the kind of power that he had. Once Valodja is gone (can’t be soon enough), the situation will be similar. The satraps will fight among themselves and maybe, just maybe there will be some meaningful opposition again.

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        Russia will collapse immediately. Their military is a joke. The only tactics they have are meat swarms and those are severely depleted.

        China will seize huge swaths of land, Chechnya will break off, it’s going to be insane how fast it will implode

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          Russia collapses immediately for centuries, yet nothing ever really happened.

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        It’s also important to note that Putin intentionally keeps all other leaders in Russia as weak as possible to maintain his iron grip. Unless he has a very good succession plan, things could become quite a clusterfuck before the dust settles.

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      Let’s hope there’s a bunch so they stay busy fighting each other for it, instead of other people.

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    Hooo! If this is true Russia’s in for it. He’s been very effective at eliminating any possible successors. Hopefully the nukes stay safe.

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    rumors about the Russian leader’s failing health.

    Yeah yeah, we’ve had these for years now. Wake me up when Russia’s new president signs a peace deal that isn’t a full on annexation of Ukrainian territories with nothing in return. If that ever happens.

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      Russia is a mafia state and russians are buck broken completely to only accept iron fisted otets as they still daily jerk off to stalin and his genocides. I doubt they would knowingly elect a good leader even if they had true democracy, a candiadate and freedom.

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        As sad as this sounds. This seems to be the state of things. It would require generations to fix this. The best case scenario would be to split Russia into smaller pieces and then fix the individual pieces. Doing the same thing to the US and China. Wouldn’t hurt either.

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          Im more for forcible eu occupation for a decade during which education, quality of life are oncreased and corruption is rooted out before free elections are allowed. Then join eu within 5 years.

          Russia could’ve been the gem of the free world by now if they kept with yeltsin.

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      The entire “ecosystem” of Russian leadership is built around a strongman. If Putin dies, the next one win based on the criteria that made Putin the leader. So there are two options: a big fucking fight, or someone roughly as bad.

      And if it’s option 2, their level of shittyness depends mostly on how effective Putin was in defenestrating his rivals.

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        One thing about regimes like Putin’s and Trump’s is that they actively select against clever and competent people. Because clever and competent people are a threat to Dear Leader’s power.

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        Well isn’t he surrounded by yes men like all “strong men” are? If you don’t stroke putins ego all day every day you go out a window for real.

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        It will be a big fucking fight, simply because that same ecosystem wasn’t built with power transition in mind. There’s no successor, no committee strong enough to fallback to, no independent power brokers.

        The result is pretty much a coin toss, but I wouldn’t hold my breath for a better outcome.

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      Fear of the “next guy” is the only reason la’orang is still alive. All of this is the fault of people gearing “what’s next”. The number of evil people on earth is finite. Even if the next one is worse, there’s only one way forward. So just take the win. The number of evil is about to drop by one

  • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ@lemm.ee
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    i read “falling health” right away…cause that seems to be the number one way for ruZZian fuckwitts to die. i bet stairs make him nervous.