Summary
China condemned JD Vance on Tuesday for calling Chinese people “peasants” in a Fox News interview, where he said, “To make it a little more crystal clear, we borrow money from Chinese peasants to buy the things those Chinese peasants manufacture.”
The Chinese Foreign Ministry labeled the remarks “ignorant and disrespectful.”
The backlash exploded on Chinese social media, garnering 140 million Weibo views.
Critics mocked Vance’s own “hillbilly” background and pointed to China’s advanced tech and infrastructure, highlighting rising tensions amid Trump’s trade war.
They are so laughably bad at this stong man act. They talk politics like either a particularly stupid playground bully or a guffawing British colonial moron from the time of the empire.
Also, I suppose it would help if your opponents found you even the least bit intimidating
They’re WWE grads
Yet they can’t cut a promo!
Linda MacMahon is literally the Secretary of Education.
they don’t even have good entrance music
They tried but the artists keep suing to make them stop using it.
Only Democrats seem to find their act intimidating.
Here it is again, a desperate attempt to blame Democrats.
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What the fuck have you done other than echo the right wing spin?
The right wing spin of “Please stop doing what Trump wants you to do”?
Or the right wing spin of “Stand up for the people who voted you in to stop Trump”?
Substantially more than most of the people on this site have been doing.
Can you be any more specific?
Thank fuck i would say. It literally their fucking job isn’t it? I have to card in every morning at 9am till 5. Their equivalent of card in is to oppose this shit, and to be perfectly honest, if I put as much effort as they did so far, my manager would have fired my ass for being a slacker
Like they were elected to do. I sure hope they’re doing more than the people trying to balance rent and food as they worry about if their senator is going to vote yes on Trump’s wants.
Yeah. Fucking Schumer is really leading the opposition. /s
And what specifically have you done?
I haven’t voted to confirm Trump’s nominees
Not voted Yes on anything Republicans want, for starters.
No cabinet picks. No poison pills. No sneaking in expansions of power in yearly budgets. No tax cuts for the rich.
It costs as much energy to vote no as it does yes. But it doesn’t look good for the lobbyists’ bank accounts when they pay for Trump’s demands, so why even bother fighting for what’s right?
They’re not blameless. They’re not entirely to blame, but they could’ve regulated social media to dampen disinformation when they had the chance.
And now that would be the reason they didn’t get elected.
The answer is never censorship. Look at who would be in charge of your ‘regulated’ social media now… It would be all of it instead of just the now hyper-regulated X.
I didn’t say censorship. They could’ve regulated social media as actual Media outlets, which puts them on the hook for libel lawsuits if blatantly fake disinformation is advertised on their platforms. In other words, they have to follow the same rules as traditional media outlets.
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Example?
You could look into it yourself, but here’s a general overview on the US response to disinformation:
https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/disinformation-governance-board/
The Democrats could’ve been pushing harder to address such a serious problem, but they didn’t. And here we are.
Like I said, they’re not entirely to blame, but they’re not blameless.
I was aware of the dangers and am now aware of the cited committee to establish regulations that somehow counter foreign and domestic disinformation without infringing on the First Amendment; I was moreso asking for your personal idea of a regulation that you would put in place if dictator for a day.
holy shit these fucking libs
“They should have cracked down on how we’re allowed to communicate with each other”
and not
“They shouldn’t have committed a genocide” or “They shouldn’t have taken tens of millions of people off medicaid and doubled child poverty”
You can’t tame the beast anymore. It’s in control and it’s bigger than governments. It’s more of poltergeist than something physical. Humanity is dying and the lifeboats that were government and religion have been overtaken.
This is a whole new war beyond law and order.
Natural law prevails, but many of us have been taught to not live by natural law. In turn we are losing the battle by being submissive to man-made law while the evil side of humanity thrives as it has never followed the law of man. They know the laws are for the poor and easily controlled and not meant for them.
Or something?
You can’t tame the beast anymore
Yes we can. It requires effort, will and risk, though, and these are things Americans lack one of.
“Please stop capitulating to Trump and signing off of his bills, they’re fascists and you’re enabling them.”
“Whats with the blame for Democrats? You must hate them for no reason.”
The budget bill? Things were going to be worse if there was a shutdown that hands more power to the executive.
If they wanted a shutdown, Republicans would have voted no and shut it down.
Instead they voted yes along with 11 Democrats.
I feel like it’s due to American privilege. They don’t understand the real world and authentic humanity.
Isn’t hillbilly the American word for peasant? Didn’t JD write a book about that?
Hillbilly refers to mountain folk from the Appalachians. Kinds like Highlanders in Scotland. Rough terrain, no real agriculture, just poverty.
So… peasants. Got it.
Well, a subset of peasants, but maybe not inclusive enough
If you don’t know what a peasant is or does, sure. You can use wrong words for all kinds of stuff, this is the internet.
Condescension makes you seem really, really smart…
“Hey, China, call Vance “White Trash.” He really likes that.”
he basically did it himself about his own town in his shitty book.
The backlash exploded on Chinese social media, garnering 140 million Weibo views.
Isn’t this nothing for China?
That’s 10% of their population.
Views, not people.
One of the most frustrating things about the current US administration, is I keep having to side with China. wtf is going on when we can no longer even get together to hate on an external trading partner? When the enemies are not at the gate but in the keep? When I have to agree with actions to punish my own country as well earned and expected?
The enemy was never China. The current US administration is worse than the previous one, but it was never China imprisoning black people en-masse, keeping your healthcare unaffordable and your life expectancy below that of Cuba, keeping your tuition prices out of reach for the majority, not guaranteeing a retirement pension, and having the largest incarceration rate on Earth. It just took orange man for you to realize. Hopefully you won’t turn back to anti-chinese sentiment and pro-US-imperialism when the cheeto is gone.
Ehhhhhhh…
I don’t disagree that the “western hemisphere” is a corrupt, increasingly fascist, capitalist hellhole…
China aren’t known for their stellar human rights record either. Uyghurs, Tibetans, anyone that jokes about Winnie the Pooh’s lookalike, etc.
Let’s not pretend either side is righteous here, every single one of us is getting fucked, it’s just a matter of degree and direction.
Uyghurs, Tibetans, anyone that jokes about Winnie the Pooh’s lookalike, etc.
If you think the
nazisAmericans are bad, wait until you hear what they have to say about thesovietschinese!Removed by mod
Hopefully you won’t turn back to anti-chinese sentiment and pro-US-imperialism when the cheeto is gone.
The guy literally said that the most frustrating thing is that he can’t be anti-chinese anymore.
This was also not on my bingo card as well. It’s a damn weird timeline we’re living in.
Maybe the enemies aren’t the ones we’ve been made to believe. Our homegrown capitalists export jobs to the “peasants” then they turn around and say to the jobless - look, the peasants took your job!
I do feel like every 4 years… there’s a new enemy in the world. Kim > Putin > Bibi =/= Donald > who’s next?
Maybe the real enemeies were the friends we made along the way? Wait… no probably not.
As someone who is trying to live in a democracy it’s still insane to accept a dictatorship IMO
The kings and dictators are gonna be a fundamental wedge between east/west for a long time.
The enemies have never been the Chinese proletariat who toil and slave for scraps to feed the demands of a capitalist, consumerist society and always the greedy, totalitarian faux-socialists with a love for concentration camps that form the ruling party.
totalitarian faux-socialists with a love for concentration camps that form the ruling party
Could you please tell me what’s the incarceration rate in China and compare it with the US?
First: No I cannot, the people of China do not enjoy freedom of press or freedom of expression, so finding out the actual statistics can be very difficult.
Second: What is your point? Two governments can be bad simultaneously, and even more than just two. Just because I oppose Israel’s genocide doesn’t mean I suddenly support Iran’s totalitarian leadership.
That’s not how it works around here. No shades of gray I’m afraid, simple black and white only. (/s)
If it’s one thing I’ve learned in my years it’s the the truth is always somewhere in the middle. Just look at global warming.
finding out the actual statistics can be very difficult
Nah, you’re just a racist US-propagandized individual who refuses to believe statistics from “le evil country” because they don’t suit your ideology. Trials in China are as public as in the rest of the world, and incarceration rates are easy to calculate, and they match the government data because China doesn’t need to lie about it becaude it’s not a police state in the way USians believe it to be. I can attest to that as someone who visited China freely and without visa, and who has had the pleasure of having several Chinese coworkers.
Second: What is your point?
My point is that China’s incarceration rate is 5 times lower that of the USA, which makes it kinda obvious that there’s no “tyrant police state jailing everyone who disagrees”.
I’ve been looking for Chinese prison-crime-etc. data. Do you have a link?
It being in Mandarin isn’t a problem.
The United Nations Crime Trends Survey data seems to match pretty well with the data from World Prison Brief regarding prison population. Hopefully nobody will accuse the UN or a London-based organization of skewing the data in favour of China.
You’re either an apologist for totalitarian dictatorships who falls for propaganda as easily as MAGA cultists or you’re just straight-up trolling. The racism accusation was really the cherry on top.
I have never even visited the US, nor do I have any intention to.
You don’t need to live in the US to fall to US State Department propaganda, I’m west-European myself and I’m surrounded by people with the same brainworms as you do. But if you insist I’ll give you two sources that give similar numbers (i.e. 5 times smaller imprisonment rate than in the USA): source 1(London-based institute) source 2(UN data). Are those also totalitarian sources for this faulty information that we can’t believe because the evil politicians from the evil country are plotting to destroy the west?
Same as it ever was, governments sucking ass while the people are just… People… Even EU governments suck ass, just maybe ever so slightly less in recent history and even that I’m not sure of (not counting the current slide to the far right obviously).
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Anyone else becoming consciously aware of things they just can’t say because China is now going to be the next superpower?
…at least their list of banned statements are coherent and predictable…I guess. With the Trump admin, you could say “I like Gouda cheese” and a few years later find yourself in El Salvador because Trump, or some other moron, got upset that The Netherlands wouldn’t willingly be annexed.
That’s what I’m talking about the oppressive dictatorship with poor human rights is the voice of reason, if sanity, the “good one”? How did that happen?
So China, how does wolfwarrior diplomacy taste?
What?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_warrior_diplomacy
I was trying to say that this is what Trump and Vance are imitating.
Coming from the hick from Appalachia.
The stereotype at that. A dumb hick from Appalachia. Which isn’t really fare to the people from there anymore. I’ve met serveral people from there who were fair minded and of reasonable intelligence. Just not that waste of breath.
Vance – that’s the hillbilly guy, yeah?
hillbilly
his elergy, states how he was gay in childhood, but his grandma told him not to say such a thing.
Does anyone believe he does not see American citizens as peasants, too?
And tries to separate himself from his peasant heritage?
after THIEL plucked him from obscurity and gave him a job.
by recent voting history would that not be somewhat accurate?
Explain what you think a peasant is .ml user.
well, .zip user… in this context I would go with one living under neo-feudal oppression. but please, do elucidate if you care to.
I was going with someone tied to the land, unable to move or better their situation.
Which would make sense in the context of Appalachia but doesn’t really make sense in the context of American citizens at large.
I got ya. you may be surprised to learn that, in the us, declining geographic mobility is very much a part of the new feudalism.
by all metrics I can think of, the us is becoming more and more a feudal estate with lords and peasants.
Not just American citizens. The people he grew up with. His own community. He even wrote a book to exploit it. The guy is all sleaze.
He’s the future president of the United States. Be careful, China!
Rising tensions with China? I was told that’s what the Democrats were going to do if they won. 🤷♂️
They did.
Pardon my ignorance, but how so?
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Wait, I thought Trump is Putin’s puppet and Putin is Xi’s puppet?
We owe Japan more than China, but the narrative we owe China sooo much comes from 20 years ago when they were our largest FOREIGN debtor. They were never clear about it and people thought we owed all the money to China. The US government’s largest single debtor is the US government. It’s too hard to wrap their mind around. The largest collective debtor is the public. Over 20 trillion of the debt is owed to the US public. This includes wealthy business entities, and individuals. China owns less than 5 percent of that, at under 1 trillion. Booga booga booga
Just Dumb is a fucking numbnut.
I mean isn’t Trump’s penguin tariff plan to make American peasants instead?
I never thought I would say, “You Go China!!” (Is that bad?)
No. Considering present-day America and China, one of those nations is far more reliable and far more stable.
ML, grad and hexbear are patiently waiting for your apologies. Sad that the line the US had to cross wasn’t imperialism and genocide, but losing decorum and imposing tariffs on treats…
I’m an anarchist. I have always been at odds with the American state. I have been arguing against genocide apologists since the Palestinian genocide began. China is not a perfect state. They are authoritarian. They are at odds with me ideologically, and I have many criticisms of their past and present state. It’s possible to both acknowledge the extent of anti-china propaganda output by the American state, and also that China is a country that has its own history past and present of human rights abuses and workers rights abuses.
This is basically 1:1 with my thoughts, would it be cool if I paraphrased/copy paste this for future use?
Sure, by all means.
Thank you, I wanted to at least ask first.
Sure, you just mentioned “present-day”, and I thought maybe you referred that things have changed somehow. The US has always been imperialist and genocidal in nature, that’s why I got triggered by the “present-day” part of your initial comment and to what I was responding.
I had a longer comment typed up initially but opted for something shorter since it was likely falling on deaf ears anyway. Yes, America was founded by genocidal colonialists. Genocide and Western imperialism are foundational American institutions.
Cool, good to see that we’re on the same page, sorry for the aggressive tone in my first comment.
