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    Fun fact: Grizzlies and Polar Bears are the same species according to the Biological Species Concept.

    Meaning they interbreed in the wild (somewhat rare), and produce viable offspring that can have babies as well.

    We’re actually noticing this happening more and more with climate change. As Grizzly populations move further and further north, they’re encountering polar bears more often and are more likely to mate. Some scientists actually think within the next couple centuries due to arctic sea ice pretty much disappearing polar bears will either go extinct, or interbreed with grizzlies so much that there isn’t a “pure” polar bear left. Most likely a mix of both.

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      There are tons and tons and tons of species that can do this. It’s not clear to me what the prevailing species concept is nowadays, if we’re even still following one.

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        Hey, Mac! You still have that Halloween costume?

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      Biologists wouldn’t say they’re the same species, because biologists are aware of interspecies hybrids and the species problem.

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      Golar bears and Pizzley bears

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        The number of confirmed hybrids has since risen to eight, all of them descending from the same female polar bear

        She has a type.

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          She likes them brown boys

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            fun fact: polar bears have black skin.

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        Scary… Polar bears comming to my house! Slightly larger whiter Grizzlys still a problem.

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      Fun fact: Grizzlies and Polar Bears are the same species according to the Biological Species Concept.

      Calling it that gives it too much credit, it is something thought up in the 17th/18th century without any concept of genetics and evolution.

      Which might explain why it breaks down almost instantly under any amount of scrutiny.

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        It’s a category. All lines are arbitrary to a degree and “interbreeds and produces viable offspring” is not exceedingly arbitrary. You can have arguments around populations which could and would interbreed if they weren’t geographically distinct, you can argue about whether offspring needs to be viable no matter which way around the sexes of the parents are, or how large the percentage of viable offspring needs to be, but in the end, yep it makes sense to have a distinction somewhere around that bunch of criteria.

        House cats and European wild cats are considered distinct species not because they’re genetically incompatible, but because they don’t interbreed to any significant degree – too many behavioural differences, and we’re not speaking about culture, here. So even if they could intermingle in theory in practice they don’t, so they stay separate, so they’re different species.

        It’s kind of… a behavioural view on the genome? If you have a better idea, field it, there has to be some dividing line because taxa for the taxonomy god.

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      So are Neanderthals and homo sapiens the same species then?

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        Close enough that we probably helped bred them out of existence. Neanderthal genetic markers show up with some regularity in certain modern human populations.

        Edit to add: While humans didn’t breed them out of existence, we certainly did intermix with them. And that does help to maintain their existence yet today.

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    Are your second story windows at floor height?

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    Bear is black, fight back.

    Bear is brown, turn around.

    Bear is white, say good night.

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      Bear is white, say good night, and tuck it in and tell it a story. Once the bear has fallen asleep snuggle up to it, so it has a fresh morning snack.

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      Black bears are pretty skittish, so usually acting big & loud is enough to make them jog away, but I’m not sure someone could take them in a fight if the black bear was cornered.

      Speaking of which, bears are extremely protective of their cubs, so if you ever see any cubs, running away from them at full speed is probably the best choice.

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      Bear is Kodiak, you are trespassing and you will be shot.

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      Turn around is a bad idea

      If it’s brown, lie down

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        I had heard it as turn around, but lie down makes much more sense.

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        Oh, I had understood that to mean lay down facedown (with your back to it) since people usually have backpacks while hiking/hunting, and it provides some measure of protection.

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      Also.

      Some black bears are brown.

      Some brown bears are black.

      Good luck everyone.

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        Polar bears have black skin. Polar bears are black bears.

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      I remember somewhere they were saying you should remove your clothes (slowly piece by piece) with a polar bear. The bear will get distracted and start sniffing your clothes.

      I think it was a QI episode and then David Mitchell said something like that Polar Bear being happier in the fact that the human would be better to eat this time because it didn’t have a wrapper.

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        That’s a myth perpetuated by the polar bears, they’re just perverts

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        I think removing your clothes is just so the bear doesn’t choke to death on your Nikes.

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        This works because polar bears are super horny. Its desire to rend you limb from limb will be replaced by overwhelming lust. Of course then you’ve got a completely different issue to deal with, but at least you might not die.

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    What kind of bear is that wearing the sunglasses?

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      Honey bear.

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      Mama bear

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    Here is a black bear, a grizzly, and a polar bear.

    And Marcie.

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    Eeeep!

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      One

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      That depends on the bear’s tactical training, if the bear went through bootcamp then it’s one slap, if the bear is also a SEAL then it’s half a slap.

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      I don’t know…Ask Mr. Owl.

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    Still rather a bear than a man though, amirite?

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      Still mad about that one? xD

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        Yeah, it hurt.

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      If you see a bear off trail, that’s normal.

      If you see a man off trail, you are being followed.

      How hard is it to understand?

      It’s not about which one women would rather fight, is about which one they would rather encounter when they expect to be alone.

      Also, the worst bears can do is maul you to death on the spot. The worst men can do is rape, torture, and maim you for weeks before killing you.

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        Also, the worst bears can do is maul you to death on the spot. The worst men can do is rape, torture, and maim you for weeks before killing you.

        Damn, all that fanfiction I read from brother bear is just crumbling…

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      In the woods. You don’t see polar bears in the woods.

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      Yes, you are. At least bears aren’t neckbeard incels.

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    Why’s the black bear so sad?

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      It’s forced to play the humiliating role of smallest-by-comparison.

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        oh anf the human is just a little snack?

        I just realised its a photo not a drawing picard

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      the grizzly is telling him “Ah, Jesus. I wish you could see this. Light’s coming up. I’ve never seen a painting that captures the beauty of the ocean at a moment like this. I’m gonna make you rich, Bud Fox. Yeah. Rich enough, you can afford a girl like Darien. This is your wake-up call, pal. Go to work.”

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    Polar bears are very curious animals, so if you back away while slowly undressing they will stop to inspect each piece of clothing, giving you time to get away.

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      They are also one of the few, next to tigers, land predators that actually have a taste for human blood. The nature of a polar bear thinks it can eat it then it will certainly try. You also absolutely cannot out run them.

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    Another reference, this time in 3D:

    Me, 6’4" 235lb, that’s a full grown and a cub 1:1 statue

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      I need a gummy bear for scale.

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        Zoom in on my shirt, the ring around my neck is about the height and width of a gummy bear, or at least close enough to work as an average

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      I could take the one on the fake boulder

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        Id say you could even make it 5 feet with the thing before momma caught up and turned you into a fine red mist

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      That picture is not in 3D. Not at all.

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        You have to use your 3D monocle for this one

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      That cub will fuck me up

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          They mentioned that in Tiger King and I just chuckled thinking that was the source of your reference.

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          They absolutely would, if it wasn’t for that Carol fuckin’ Baskin!

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        Whatever that little thing laying on the rock would fuck me up.

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          Is that polar bear turd?

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      And there was a time that humans with stone tools were like yep I can kill that

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        Thats how we made it this far. Some absolute morons charge ahead and get themselves killed, while everyone else shakes their head. With some animals it works, surprisingly. Others we learn to keep away from- until the next moron feels like " hey, lets try that thing again!".

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          I mean we basically successfully hunted every animal on the planet. Wouldn’t say it’s fair to call them morons

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            Ahead of their time.

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              Nah that was their time. If you gave the average group of humans 40,000 years ago and an average group of modern day humans spears and told them to hunt a polar bear, the group from the past would be much more successful.

              Obviously our technology today makes it an easier task, but I’m very impressed at what our ancestors were capable of.

              Look up cave bears for a treat.

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            I mean, we likely also hunted every animal on the planet unsuccessfully and got killed by them.

            did any society ever rely on polar bears as a major food source? because to me, that would seem like the absolute last resort. Not an everyday-type activity, more something for the desperate or someone crazy. Then again, I’m not into stone age history.

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              https://www.polarbearscanada.ca/sites/default/files/public/hunting_polar_bear_in_the_winter_englishinuktitut_tumble_1.pdf

              Surprisingly, yes. The Inuit have for generations.

              I was honestly expecting the answer to be that they would kill them in self defense, or if the bear was threatening a more sane food source, and eating it was only rational.

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                thanks for rhe source!

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    Tall snow doggos

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    Motorcycle helmets are purposefully not-hard. Odd comparison.

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      But they are pretty thick, since that means more impact-absorbing foam.

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    I bet they gives good hugs :3

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      It will keep you warm and cozy for the rest of your life!

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        Great source of vitamin A!

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          enough to become toxic to humans.

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          Also vitamin AA, AAA, and AAAA.

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            Duracel picked a wrong mascot.

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      Only once

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    Do not – and I really cannot stress this enough – give any of those bears cocaine

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      instructions unclear, bears are now on pcp

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        A gallon of pcp?

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          why not?

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            That’s the spirit

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          Thanks for reminding me about this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tFUvmZWf4hI

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            good memories thanks for the link

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          Didn’t even know they made it in liquid form

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            Science 🤷‍♂️

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            Everything’s liquid form eventually

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            I dissolved it in Absinthe, seemed like a good idea at the time…

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      So…

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        Cocaine Bear 2: Land of the Fresh Powder.

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