The Spanish went on general strike to stop their country’s complicity in genocide, but failing that you can start with these guys. You can just write BDS on Wikipedia if you want to know what they’re about, but this site has plenty of concrete, actionable steps you can take to reduce your, your community’s, your workplace’s and—with enough people on board—your country’s complicity in genocide. I’d suggest looking into apartheid-free zones as a start. I also want to note that the best thing you can do for Palestinians is to spread the word and get more people on the side of humanity.
Also, if you’re not already doing so, organize in your community and workplace, and use your collective leverage to push for causes you care about. Be an active participant in the fight against fascism and for democracy, equity and solidarity. These values, I should add, are already mutually exclusive with Zionism, so you’d be hitting two birds with one stone.
Edit: In case anyone wants assurance that this works (or just wants to enjoy some economic schadenfreude), enjoy.
Spain did not go to general strike.
A general strike was convoked by a small union (as it is their right) and basically no one seconded the strike.
I don’t think I could, on good faith, call it a general strike if basically no one stopped working. Was a very minoritarian thing. General strike was called as it is a right unions have, but if workers decide not to follow there’s not a real strike to talk about.
Source: I’m Spanish and I clearly remember first hand what happened.
Second source: https://funcionpublica.digital.gob.es/dam/es/portalsefp/funcion-publica/dialogo-social/seguimiento-huelgas/27_9_2024_Datos_Huelga_General_convocada_por_CGT_y_SUO.pdf Strike supporting numbers for AGE workers. As you see about 1% of public workers followed the strike.
I don’t know, but I know of one thing citizens SHOULDN’T do to prevent their country enabling genocide. That is forfeiting their future by electing a dictator that might genocide poor people on the other side of the world a little less in exchange for giving up freedoms. I get it. Voluntarily making our lives worse/harder because it might help poor people in another country sounds like a grand and noble thing to do. But now they’re sending American citizens to concentration camps. If you think this was a fair trade, just block me right now. Don’t be like gen Z and swing voters in the 2024 US election. Sometimes you just have to choose to save yourself first.
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Go to gaza
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Next election vote EVERYONE OUT. No Republicans (MAGA) should be left in Congress to make sure they give a hell to Trump and force him to quit (almost near impossible) but that’s the only way
Someone is feeling positive and adventurous, talking about voting and stuff… Do you really think that you’ll be able to vote in a fair election next time?
The work that I’ve seen done to sabotage voting before and after last US elections ntrlls me that cheeto&co are hell bent on making sure no one in the US will be able to vote honestly ever again.
The time to do something was 6 months ago, now its too little, too late
the SPD and KPD should’ve just voted the Nazis out of power, right guys?
It’s worse than that. The guy is suggesting to replace the Nazis with Nazis-lite lol
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How would that help? The Democrats were also doing genocide
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No, 60 thousand people were positively confirmed to have been directly killed by Israeli munitions. The number of people who died in total was estimated at a quarter million.
Buy a gun, and start learning to use it. Now is not the time, but be prepared should it.
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Sing a bar of Alice’s restaurant…
You can get anything you want
Vote with your wallet. Money is the only thing that matters to the people in charge here
Can you give some examples?
Where possible, avoid buying from companies that are complicit. It’s not always possible but it’s worth trying.
I’ve used apps like this to help make decisions:
Where possible, avoid buying from companies that are complicit.
Unless you buy from local creators/farmers, EVERYONE is complicit.
But your local farmers likely voted for the more genocidal candidate. Does that count as being complicit?
Also, their seeds likely have to rebought every year from some corporation, due to patents BS, meaning you are still indirectly supporting evil.
Ah fuck, we’re all gonna end up in The Bad Place.
Simply existing is destroying the planet, so, like many things, you practice harm reduction. If I need to buy hardware or tools, and there’s no local shop, I go to Lowe’s. Not because Lowe’s is awesome, it’s a shitty corporation. But because Home Depot donates money to groups that practice gay conversion therapy, which is worse than anything I know of that Lowe’s does.
Pretty much every decision you make can be about harm reduction on some level. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of better.
My problem is that I never even HEARD of the Home Depot thing.
Here’s one you may or may not know about. Nestle actually engages in and uses literal slave labor to grow coco beans in other countries.
So you think “well, how hard is it really to just buy hersheys chocolate instead? And buy your cookies from local bakeries?”
Except no. Nestle is more than just chocolate. It’s like hundreds of brands. I’m constantly checking packaging now to see if their logo is on products. It owns DiGorno pizza. It owns Hot Pockets. It owns water bottles. It’s like half the grocery store. And that’s just ONE COMPANY!!!
My issue isn’t accepting that you’re right. My issue is keeping track of it all. I’ve hated Nestle since 2012. I didn’t realize the scope of their brands until 2020. I think they even own a pet food company that makes dog food and cat food. Now granted I don’t have pets, so I’d not have delt with that, but still.
I only have so many brain cells left to rot before I’m a full on dementia ridden crazy person who thinks it’s still the Nixon years, despite the fact I was born in 1983.
The No Thanks app let’s you scan barcodes to quickly check if a product is on the BDS list. You can also search. Either way it only takes a few seconds to check if unsure about a brand
It was about the same years for me that I realized the scale of evil at Nestle, followed by learning they make everything. In fact we were even born the same year.
I hear you. All we can do is our best.
Not every one but all mega corps for sure and we are mostly fucked by them…
Buy local, in cash.
Every card transaction benefits the big credit card companies, all of which are complicit. Local businesses are some of the ones hit hardest from all of this and will need your support.
Avoid chains owned by local folks, too. Those big chains still benefit even if it’s your neighbor that owns the local McDonalds.
Support things the government is trying to destroy, like your local library, and your local stores that sell LGBT positive merchandise.
Make friends with your neighbors. Grow things in your yard that they need and trade for stuff you need. Many folks that seem in agreement with all of this really aren’t if you know them. We are stronger together.
In regards to home gardens, Not everyone needs everything, but everyone needs something. If you can get chickens or some kind of egg laying fowl, then that’s a possibility as well. Guineas are fighters and do well in areas without a lot of brush or low trees.
Bike as much as you can. Avoid gas as much as you can. Ride the bus or a train. Don’t fly anywhere. Install solar panels if you are able. Capture rain water and use it for your garden.
Buy used as much as possible, especially clothes.
Replace your single use materials in your home with reusable ones. Rags instead of paper towels, glass containers instead of plastic ones, metal straws, and a water pick instead of floss.
Make things. Anything. Don’t monetize your hobbies, share them instead. Trade homemade goods and art for other stuff.
Avoid the dollar as much as possible, and use cash when you can’t.
Thanks for attempting an answer. I’ve got to say this feels laughable in light of what’s going on.
“vote with your wallet” while our wallets are empty
Voting with your wallet is a lie, like recycling plastic
You can’t do collective action individually. You can make the house hurt a little bit, but you’ll never force them to change through what you buy. The house always wins, unless you get together to change the rules
I disagree with this. You can already see a recent example of Canadian consumers avoiding US imports, creating pressure on US companies, and the US government reacting by making moves to curtail the original tarrifs proposal.
Obviously the Canadian boycott was only one component but I believe it did have a meaningful impact.
Kind of agree with you re:plastics. Last time I read about it they could only be recycled once into inferior quality plastic. Ironically in this case I’d suggest voting with your wallet is a solution to the plastic problem since businesses will react to more consumers switching to responsibly packaged products like paper bags for fruit + veg from a local grocers. One of the large supermarket chains in the UK, Waitrose, switched to paper bags due to public pressure in the past few years.
The Canadian boycotts are not “voting with your wallet”, they’re collective action.
Canadians, together, decided to boycott American goods. Their leaders cancelled deals. Their local stores and suppliers decided they’d rather source from anywhere else. The Canadian government started working on trade deals with everyone else
The nation of Canada as a whole is boycotting American goods. They’re not doing this individually, they have an organized response
Encouraging people to vote with their wallet creates collective action. How do you think these things start? You telling people not to bother is exactly how you prevent it.
No, that’s backwards. You don’t reduce plastic by recycling, you don’t change corporate behavior by not buying their stuff
If a company loses a customer, that’s nothing. If a company has less sales, that’s a marketing problem. They aren’t going to operate more morally now, because it’s a business problem and a PR problem
Boycotts are very different. You get a block of people together, you tell them “we’re all boycotting you because X”, and then they see it in their numbers. You do it loudly. The investors get nervous, you’ve very publicly connected the cause and effect, other businesses might join in to take advantage, etc
You have to organize first, it’s great to shop ethically if you can, but you’re just acting as the market as a whole… Are they going to start farming more sustainably, or are they going to try to convince consumers they are? One of these things is much easier and cheaper
If you’re organized, you can come back with “hey everyone, they’re bullshitting us, keep up the boycott”
The dangerous part of this is that without organization, people feel like they’re fixing the problem when they’re not. It gives an illusion of control that isn’t there
Voting with your wallet can be a boycott. Seems like you’re really mincing words here and creating a false equivalent to recycling plastic that no one else is using as a comparison.
It’s not a false equivalence, it’s the same exact thing
Its a lie. The lie is “you can do collective action individually”. You can’t… That’s not how any of this works
Boycotts are real. Voting with your wallet is just shopping.
There’s no message to it, no power - just a slice of consumers to market to differently or a need to pivot
This but big. Large scale disruption to the economy would do a lot toward fixing problems.
The harmful corruption must be torn down before peaceful negotiation may take place.
Exactly. Here’s a thought… and I’m just spitballing here: tariffs. Then take them away. Then add them again. Then take them away. Then add them again. /s
Someone get this chap to run for office!
Look, we don’t just elect anyone, here. How many pussies have they grabbed? How many bankruptcies? These kinds of things are the bedrock of our election standards, established in 2015, and cannot, in good conscience, be unanswered.
Better pump up those numbers, hope they have “Justice system doesn’t apply to me” money.
That’s some cool stable genius shit!
So just sit back and let Trump do his thing?
Turning it off and on again
Stop supporting the right wing duopoly that enabled it
leave the country. You are paying taxes, purchasing goods and services, raising families, and just being here enables the genocide machine to continue churning. We have no representation here. It’s all performative. But take their money away and oh boy do they notice that.
Ok moneybags what us poors?
I can’t afford to leave either. Which means I can’t fight back either.
Don’t worry we’ll meaning people with escape hatches will save us, wait no that’s never how it works out. We just die
If you are profitable why are you even alive?
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Vote locally
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Run locally
If you can rally people behind a cause, go for it.
Other than that. Nothing really. Try to spend money with those that align with your values.
Unrelated, but likely more important. Donate to charity, or help the homeless in your own community.
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Is the USA enabling genocide?
The USA was built on genocide goddammit
Whole nations of people wiped out
And yes, obviously, Gaza.
Most nations are built on genocide, it’s an unfortunate part of human nature to be cruel to those not like your group.I mean the last hundred years alone, the of Cossacks if Crimea, the holocaust, Kaiser run Germany committed one before WW2, Ottomans genocide Armenia, China is actively engaged in one now, as well as Israels current actions in Gaza, and that’s just off the top of my head, but somehow only the USA is built on it. You ignore the skeletons in your own foundations and dishonor yourself and their deaths by doing so
I’m honestly not sure what point you’re trying to make.
The USA was built the same way all nations were, by subjugation and eradication but we are one of the few looked down on for it and outright called irredeemable for it
Oh! Lookie here, a fascist for breakfast. My day is off to a lovely start.
The difference is in the history. America has NEVER been honest about its origins. No other modern nation was built on slavery like we were. Britain abolished it decades before America. And after WWII, they gave up the rest of their colonies because it was the right thing to do. That’s when the American Empire took off. Naval bases in every country. Global watchdog, above the laws everyone else has to follow.
America? It only stopped genociding Indians when they were such a small population that they couldn’t pose a threat to the white man, and it still fucks them over every chance it can. Edit: oh yeah, and then it painted them as villains in cowboy movies for half a century. Nice.
Racism is so deeply embedded in America that the simple claim that black lives matter turned into a controversy. You know what a normal nation would’ve done? Examine their police. Us? We said fuck those people, let the racist cops do whatever they want. Do you have any clue what it’s like to raise a black son in America? I’m white myself so I can’t speak firsthand, but I have talked to numerous people who’ve told me about “the Talk”. You know about this? It’s not the birds and the bees, it’s about how to behave around cops so they don’t kill you. How insanely fucked up does your country have to be for that??
This is called honesty. Progress can’t be made without it.
I’ve made it my life’s work to fight white supremacy in the blue collar South and I’ll fucking devour you whole.
Edit: I’d like to print out to anyone stumbling across this that that sumbitch knows I’m right and is lying bloodied in the mud at my feet, crying, like a little bitch. Just like the ones I’ve beaten in real life after they insisted on dancing. Bullies have come after me my whole fuckin life and I’ve learned EXACTLY how they work. I know the strategies fascists use on forums like these. And I’ll bet you’ve logged me, maybe you’ve got someone looking into me. I don’t doubt the fascist Musk’s AI has flagged me for all kinds of shit and it’s just a matter of time now.
I ain’t fuckin scared of you, and your mother should be ashamed.
You dishonor everyone who died fighting the fascists by misusing that word. You are screaming over the lived experience of an indigenous man and throwing slurs. Hell you accused me of working for Musk because I disagree with you partially. Do some introspection. But go on, tell me more about how you beat me, thump your chest and never stop to think
Excuse me? First off, you defended the US government. That was the point you made when prompted.
Look I don’t try to talk over anyone. You didn’t bring identity into it until just now. I genuinely try to be mindful of my privilege at all times and have for a while.
But you should know as well as anyone that the US is, especially now, a fascist dictatorship, and doesn’t need white knights (ironically) stepping up to say “oh poor America it gets such a bad rap for its long history of subjugation”.
That was the point I was making. Which, I feel, is pretty fair. But I’ll listen if you’ve got something to say.
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If anything, enabling is too soft a word
Look guys, we have weapons to sell. It’s what we do.
You make it sound like Israel actually pays for it’s weapons!
You’re saying they don’t pay for their weapons? Pretty sure we would stop selling them weapons if they weren’t ever paying for them.
I am indeed saying that. Remember that the US government doesn’t have state run arms industries: the money is going to private companies regardless of whether Israel buys them, or the US government buys them and gifts them to Israel. It’s not about money.
True we don’t have state run arms industries but never think the military industrial complex isn’t part of the government. In America it’s always about the money.
Yeah, but the military industrial complex still gets its cut when the US gifts Israel weapons, it just comes from the US tax payers.
Become Luigi.
