As much i love a good trashing of politican the real quote was “Maybe we need to treat more diabetes with cooking classes, not just throwing insulin at people,”
Better diet really could help prevent type 2 diebetes and personally i think prevention is always better solution than treatment.
I guess I agree with that in certain contexts. I remember my buddy became a real nutrition expert after his diagnosis. Kind of taught us all about balancing carbs and fiber and reducing sugar, etc.
Oh you mean the thing that we already do? Good suggestion.
Hum… but your quote indeed uses “treat”, I am no expert, but I feel it might be the verb form of “treatment”…
Great. Everybody has right for feelings.
Its almost like language is funny thing that can be ambiguous and interpreted in many ways. Often the way it suits the person reading it the best.
Im not expert but one might think that in this particular contects he might be using word treat as in the saying “prevention is the best medicine.” And some asshole could comment “I am no expert, but I feel prevention might not be medicine at all”
I dont like the dude and in all truth i could not care less about americans assbackwards medical care system, but i just hate when people take things out of context and try to spin it the way it is best for their own agenta moving the conversation towards hating person/country/religion/political group/ what ever they want instead of thinking that the person might have some idea.
Like in this case we could be writing how we could effect how to get people eat healthier instead of being smartasses.
The thing is, they act like this isn’t happening already. My doctor frequently checks and monitors my blood sugar and has scheduled conversations with nutritionists to help me adjust my lifestyle and diet.
This is the fucking standard of care.
These quacks are just perpetuating the myth that doctors “just push meds” and are controlled by “big pharma”. It’s how conspiracy theories work. You take a small kernel of truth (we treat some diabetes with insulin) and then just make up sinister stories around it.
Edit: what they actually want is to ne able to blame people who have diabetes for having diabetes. That way they are justified in denying them life-saving medication.
To be fair, our western diet of mainly cheap non-nutritive carbs suck. America needs desperately to change their diet but when Michelle Obama tried to encourage better eating habits the Republicans attacked her. JFK jr, on the other hand is totally nuts.
It must have been quit a challenge to find the most incompetent losers to fill the failed, fucked-up, fat, fascist, felon’s cabinet.You do know there are different types of diabetes, right? And a lot of different things that can lead to diabetes?
Some people do get there, in part, due to poor diet, but not everyone.
To be fair
Well there’s your problem. Never hand it to fascists (or grifters, or cult leaders, etc. — basically any kind of bad faith actors).
Michelle Obama tried to encourage better eating habits the Republicans attacked her.
Part of her plan would have banned Cheerios in schools because of added salt. That was one of the things getting pushback.
Her initiative to get added sugars listed on nutrition labels had very broad support.
You guys have chips in schools? Bruh…
I know someone said cheerios are cereal, which they are. But we do indeed have chips, or crisps, in our schools.
Cheerios are a breakfast cereal. Generally considered a relatively healthy one due to their lack of added sugars.
My bad. I was thinking of cheetos
Oh yeah, I can see how you got to “bruh” there.
There’s no need to be fair here. Insulin is absolutely essential for diabetics, and the head of the FDA trying to proclaim that cooking classes are a viable alternative is nonsense. For type 1 diabetics, no amount of healthy eating is going to get their body to produce insulin. For type 2 diabetics, it is possible to eventually get to a point where you can be stable without insulin, but not for everybody and not right away. Insulin treatment is the only way to survive with diabetes for an extended period of time, and the focus needs to be on ensuring that insulin is both affordable and accessible.
Yes, there are things to improve in our food supply, but don’t let that distract from how egregiously insane his comments are about diabetes.
This is the truth, right here.
It must have been quit a challenge to find the most incompetent losers to fill the failed, fucked-up, fat, fascist, felon’s cabinet.
Not really. Anyone who actually wants to support Trump automatically falls into that group.
Ah yes. The 80’s coke heads in charge of things. Think they know better.
People will die because of these fuck holes.
“Try not being so fat, you fucking fatties” is a reaction I have heard from people who are themselves overweight. It’s genuinely maddening to see how many Americans are sold on the most superficial understanding of “healthy” as “fuckable” rather than “capable and resilient”.
So much of the Trump attitude towards health seems to be geared towards eugenics against old ugly poors.
That’s what’s stupid too is most of the eugenics are directed at things eugenics don’t even “fix” - it doesn’t matter how well bred you are you will get old and we already have plenty of hot and smart poor people, lots of them even have college educations beyond that, beauty is in the eye of the beholder
Killing people is a core tenet of the Republican party.
Cooking classes fixes hormones
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You wish.
yeah that makes sense put your life in your own hands and die trying versus using proven medicine
They’re all fucking weirdos and idiots if I had a shop I couldn’t trust any if this lot to work the till alone. If they where poor they would have all died by now.
Syringes for me, but not for thee.
Check your privilege, buddy.
Yes and no for US. We have folks lining up for ice cream at Walmart and jabbing insulin with it. Diabetes is a diet disease (T2). My A1C was north of 15 when diagnosed. I did go the diet route and managed it before 5.7 for 4 years and now finally it’s creeping up to 5.9. It’s a chronic disease and will get worse with time.
Other issue I find is it is expensive to eat healthy in US. So either we need to provide cheaper healthier option or we need to provide insulin. We cannot take them both away.
Diabetes is a diet disease
Poor diet can increase likelihood of developing T2, and good diet can help manage, but diet does not prevent onset of T2. Also prevalence of gestational diabetes is often a precursor to T2 later in life even when diet and lifestyle otherwise “healthy”.
Diabetes is sometimes a diet disease, good diet is not a panacea
Food that’s bad for you is often cheap to transport and preserve for long periods. An apple will rot in weeks, but a twinkie can sit on a shelf for years.
The industrialization of agriculture has been highly profitable for a handful of insiders and horrible for everyone else.
The industrialization of agriculture has been highly profitable for a handful of insiders and horrible for everyone else.
Industrialization of agriculture is what keeps enough calories flowing from the farms to the people.
Commercialization of foods - processed foods, fast food restaurants, chain restaurants, ex-tobacco industry leadership of the food companies, that’s the biggest driver of “horrible” - unless you’re profiting from the healthcare costs that are ballooning with American waistlines.
it is expensive to eat healthy in US
Expensive and inconvenient.
If you’re not cooking for yourself, 95%+ of what’s available for “low effort” is sugar coated salty fat bombs. That’s what “free market” competition in restaurants gets you: hyper-attractive foods.
I hate to be one to agree, but if he’s referring to type 2 diabetes, then it’s actually a valid point.
Type 2 is not only preventable but reversable (either completely or enough to massively reduce insulin dependency).
This has been known for a while. Even major diabetes organizations and medical universities say it.
The problem is, good luck convincing someone to switch their diet. And if they wanted to, they may not even be able to afford it.
If it were easy, heart disease, cancer, diabetes, and obesity related illnesses would be rare.
Another option is semi glutide treatment that makes you avoid alcohol, high carb food and lower your calorie intake.
Type 2 is not only preventable but reversible (either completely or enough to massively reduce insulin dependency).
They say this works for some, not all individuals.
They say this works for some, not all individuals.
That could be a matter of compliance, obesity, or other factors (i.e. not diet alone).
Regardless, if the majority of people could be helped with lifestyle intervention, then that should be the priority over pharmacological treatment.
Naw, one size fits most is a horrible way to practice medicine. All treatments should be geared to the individuals situation and needs.
Naw, one size fits most is a horrible way to practice medicine.
Um, as human beings, we need a health-promoting lifestyle above all else. Medication should come a long way off from lifestyle intervention for most illnesses, and only as an adjunct to a healthful lifestyle.
The individual protocols can differ, but you aren’t going to make anyone well if you aren’t focusing on the foundations of health: exercise, sleep, nutrition, stress management.
Type-2 diabetes is considered a lifestyle-related illness for a reason. Treating it with meds first is such a “Big Pharma” way of doing things, and it’s so harmful.
Without medication some people will die, others will be permanently disabled. No amount of lifestyle changes will help them with out medication.
Maybe you are misunderstanding, or maybe I’m not explaining it clearly.
With lifestyle related illness (like type-2 diabetes), the “cure” isn’t medication, but a change in lifestyle.
The prevention is also based on a healthy lifestyle, not a shortage of medication.
Therefore, if you want to fix a lifestyle related illness, backed by decades of research, then the priority is to get patients to at least practice a healthy lifestyle.
If you don’t, then you’re fighting a losing battle, and people will be dependent on medication for their entire life.
That’s not to say that medication can’t be used during the transition phase to a healthy lifestyle, but doctors who only push meds are doing harm.
T2 is not just a lifestyle related illness.
Some people are genetically predisposed and get T2 no matter what lifestyle changes they make.
Some people have a damaged pancreas and develop T2 no matter what lifestyle changes they make.
Some people with disabilities can’t really change their lifestyle.
The lifestyle change first regimen without medication would kill many.
I understand for many, if not most, the lifestyle change is all that is needed, I even advocate lifestyle changes in another comment. I spent 5 years on an organization committee for the ADA’s tour de cure and have given presentations on the ADA’s Choose your plate, nutrition for life. You don’t need to convince me lifestyle changes are important.
I also know many people that developed T2 in spite of a healthy lifestyle. I know people that would be dead if not for their medications because T2 is not just a lifestyle related illness.
Again T2 is not just a lifestyle related illness.
Yep there is a point of no return.
I hate to say it, because it’s such a swallow-the-spider, but I hope GP1s are able to help humans overcome food marketing and processed food bullshit. I’m on one myself and it helps me make better decisions because my sugar cravings aren’t leading me around by the nose. As a result I hope to avoid diabetes.
Keep at it, it can help prevent. Even if it does not prevent it can make symptoms less severe. Also long sessions of cardio are very helpful, hikes and bike rides can be fun ways to get cardio but treadmill and stationary bike work as well.
Source: ADA volunteer who knows hundreds that manage their levels and symptoms with diet and exercise and some that can’t. Became a volunteer after losing a close relative that refused to change lifestyle.
Edit: there/their/they’re
Good point, they really should start encouraging diabetics to follow a very specific diet…
Oh wait, they already do that because of course they fucking do?
A good rule of thumb whenever I hear anything about what this administration does in regards to health I try to look at it through the lens of eugenics. They want to get rid of the people they consider “weak” and think that using money to help those that need it to be a waste of money. People with autism, weak immune systems, chronic illnesses, poor people, drug addicts, and pretty much anyone else they consider undesirable and less than human. Also, they consider our tax money as their personal bank account as if the country was a company and our taxes are their profits. Pretty fucked up, but it makes more sense than trying to rationalize clearly irrational behavior.
Weird. The only thing I can think is that we should string these motherfuckers up asap.
Sure, but it’s good to know how we got here
That’s how we prevent this, which we did not.
All we have left is reaction.
Robespierre special
A novel approach to cut A1C levels
“Mr. Trump said that if it was up to Mr. Miller there would be only 100 million people in this country, and they would all look like Mr. Miller.” - NYTimes
Ew could you imagine
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What an absolute fucking retarded thing to say for insulin dependent people
