Donald Trump has said that he will withhold funding for New York City if presumptive Democratic mayoral nominee Zohran Mamdani becomes mayor after November’s general election and doesn’t do the “right thing.”

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    Lmao, damn, trump seems really scared of this guy.

    All the conservatives seem really scared of this guy.

    Wonder why republicans might be scared of Democratic candidates left of dead center. Almost like a real alternative not slobbering out neoliberal, Chicago school of economics, nonsense could sweep them in a lot of traditional safe seats.

    Or at least be really hard to rally their base against if their base actually hears what the policies are.

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    Just FYI: withholding money is financial abuse, a favorite tactic of abusers, since it leaves no visible marks until significant damage is done.

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      Threatening to withhold money from a place that gives you the most money doesn’t seem like a smart idea.

      If New York and California don’t give them their money, the Federal Government isn’t going to have money to withhold.

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        That’s what abusers do, too. They will cut their own throats to make you squirm.

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      I’m so tired of people not telling this old bunch of shit sacks to fuck off. I’d have so much respect for any threatened tRump victim if they just told him the fuck off after shits like that.

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        Hopefully he also makes more friends and helps gain momentum to get the rest of the goons out in other jurisdictions

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      I predict Mamdani and Trump will have similar arcs through the media landscape. The media hated Trump but just couldn’t stop paying attention to him, even though every time they attacked him it only made him stronger. Now they are all bending the knee to him.

      The same exact thing is happening with Mamdani, but this time for all the best reasons. Mamdani’s campaign might easily become a nationwide avalanche.

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        Why would liberal media ever bow to a socialist? The capitalists will always understand socialism as a greater threat than fascism.

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          For the same reason they speak in reverence of Martin Luther King Jr. and pretend that liberals didn’t hate his guts back in the day.

          On a long enough time scale the left always wins, and liberals always pretend that they backed the left the whole time and claim the victory for themselves.

          “A liberal is someone who opposes every war except the current war and supports all civil rights movements except the one that’s going on right now.”

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        might easily become a nationwide avalanche

        Anecdotally, I have fairly non-political coworkers in other states that are hyping up Mamdani. His reach across Gen Z is honestly insane and people are even making TikTok/Instagram hype edits of him all the time

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        I kind of doubt that Zohran will have the same arc, since he’s campaigning directly against the vested interests of the owners of our major media outlets. I could see him becoming an outside force too large for them to ignore, who ultimately forces them to change tactics, though.

        At the moment, he’s an outlier of a candidate for them to try and beat down, and the mainstream media will fight tooth and nail to keep him that way, since him inspiring a broader insurgency of proper leftwing candidates to challenge “progressive” establishment Dems represents an existential crisis for them.

        A successful term as mayor for Zohran could well sound the death knell for them if it leads to either a Tea Party style takeover of the Democrats, or produces enough momentum to lead to a proper third party that unseats the Democrats from their position as the GOP-lite party of controlled opposition. Imagine what could happen if those media organizations had to face a properly funded public broadcasting service, for example, that gained broad purchase amongst the public.

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    This all feels like some carnival played-out Republican PR seeking drama with actors on both sides.

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      That would only work with like-minded politicians. Old Democrats have spent more energy complaining about Mamdani in the past month than Trump’s current presidential run.

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        So… what you are saying is that it is time to separate the wheat from the chaff. Those old fuckers need to retire and try to still appear wise… they are fucking failures and should know it.

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        I actually think that conservative journals like the WSJ have created the appearance that Democrats are anti-Mamdani, in an attempt to “divide and conquer” democrats.

        i actually see a surprisingly positive response to Mamdani from democratic movements all across the US.

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          Hey, I am an old Xer and have come to the realization that the reason we lost last election (other than the cheating but decentralized voting almost always wins over cheating)… is because we listened to those “Never Trump Republicans” and embraced the Cheneys and others. That was exactly the wrong tack. We should have embraced instead the Bernie/AOC and Elizabeth faction. That would have communicated to the people that we actually cared about their life circumstances in this post-Covid, war infected supply chain challenged economy. Let the New Economics/Distributist peeps inform us with some resilient strategies. We are Fucking Tired of the Old Ideas.

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          Bingo. The media is entirely captured, obviously, and people don’t understand what’s really going on as a result.

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    If that happens, time for more mass protests. Surround the White House and stop anyone from entering and leaving until funding to NYC is restored.

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      I’ll be honest they’re not working from my perspective. I see them everyday and I see the news the next morning.

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        Protests and public opinion have already contributed to Musk leaving D.C., which if you ask me is a pretty big accomplishment. And protests aren’t usually one and done… It’s about building a movement, and that takes time.

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          That’s fair. I was going to agree that it wasn’t working.

          But we as liberals have to stop looking for perfection. Our protests made Musk have a breakdown and drop out. That’s a win.

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    Mamdani won a mayoral primary, hasn’t even been elected yet and the hype on all sides is enormous.

    Really hope New Yorkers dig in and back this dude.

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    Bullying, threats and coercion are MAGA’s SOP. Also works to dominate the uneducated, contractors, colleges, vulnerable women, wage slaves and the GOP.

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    He is copying Orbán in Hungary. He also “starved” the capital city because they elected an opposition mayor. The city is near bankruptcy at the moment. But hey, mini Trump also wanted to ban the Pride march there last Saturday, and as a result he made it the biggest mass event of the past 10 years.

    So if things happen similarly, Trump might be able to actually do this, but it might just ruin his chances at the next election - provided there will be another one, according to him.

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    This shows that waiting to 2026 and hoping that Dems will take over Congress is really pointless. They won’t acknowledge and certify any results that aren’t their people.

    At this point we either fight or accept end of US as a democracy.

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      At this point we either fight or accept end of US as a democracy.

      I really wish we could stop all the pussyfooting and just get to the actual open conflict portion on the program already. It’s obviously what both sides want at this point, let’s cut the shit and just do the fuckin thing already.

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        A frequent occurrence with forced regime change is trading out one evil for one or more worse evils. Check out Sudan’s history. It’s not at all easy to build a democracy, so the establishment is rightly hesitant to just scrap this one, as direly troubled as it is.

        Odds are we’re just going to coast BAU into oblivion.

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      We do not fight on their terms.

      They want battles in the streets. They want explosives, dead feds and cops.

      They want 258,000,000 dead Americans. They don’t give two shits what side it’s on.

      A Mayoral election giving the elite this much terror is extremely telling. The GOP didn’t work the top down, they worked the bottom up. Local governments, states, and the branches of the Federal government.

      If NYC can get this guy elected, then the doubt that fascists need to instill in the idea of democracy gets bolstered, and they have to do things that will be even more unpopular than kidnapping immigrants.