the mod said they will unban him if he remove the post in /r/viking
Disgusting and such a clear example of the damage we do to another when we accept the all encompassing conditions of corporate social media without resistance.
When a social media website is being run for profit, this kind of shockingly ugly simplification of “foreign” ideas (Islam is NOT foreign to the US) is inveitable. In order to monetize at scale, the system demands this degree of ignorance, it is not optional nor an unintended side effect it is rather how “we” ensure the “right” history is recorded as a racist, xenophobic society choking to death on its own bigotry.
It is the same situation with mainstream corporate news. The more money you add, the more practiced and willful ignorance you get.
Nah this isn’t corporate influence, it’s just plain old bigotry and racism. This smells strongly of “brown religion bad”.
A lot of Americans fell victim to this after 9/11 and it never went away. Anything Muslim is terrorism. I doubt most of them even know that allah is just the name they use for their god, and certainly not that it’s the same god as the Christian god.
This smells strongly of “brown religion bad”.
Jesus was a brown, middle eastern, palestinian jew.
“devout” sees him as a white , blue eyed man.
i feel like we’re in need of another Life of Brian or Blazing Saddles. I wish I were talented enough to write or film either
Yes I am aware, but good luck convincing white Christians of that.
Try to explain to an American Christian what a Coptic is.
Usually you can watch their brains melt inside their heads.
almost any comment against christianity=bad, even MEDIA/MSN dont touch this, but more than happy to frame muslims as a violent sexist religion, eventhough christianity has DONE ALOT worst.
allah is just the name they use for their god
Christian Arabs use this name for God as well
they also get upset if you call anything christians put into law as 'sharia law"
It’s not a name. It’s literally just the word “God” in Arabic.
Yes, this is ridiculous, we aren’t even talking about an especially specific word or concept, you might as well call the word for “love” in arabic inherently extremist, threatening and violent.
Ask 1000 Christians what “god” means to them and get 1000 different answers, why would it be any different for Islam?
“God”: Based. Cool. Trad. The foundation of Western Civilization. Protected by the first amendment. Maybe we’d all be a little better of we honored him more.
“God” but in Arabic: Extremist. Scary. Woke. A corrupting influence on the global politics. Clear and present danger. We need to expunge it from our nation and the world.
Wait to they find out about Arabic numbers and start banning upvotes and downvotes
In Germany someone trolled a mayor candidate of one of the Nazi parties with that. He fell for it
https://www.politico.eu/article/far-right-german-candidate-promises-to-get-rid-of-arabic-numerals
The funniest part of this is they’re literally the same god.
It’s all different forms of YHWH, Judaism, Islam, Christianity.
It’s all the same god with the fanfic changed up a little.
Even within the same religion it’s the same word; Arabic Christians and Jews use the word ‘Allah’
Wanna know something even funnier? Look up the word for “God” in Aramaic, the language Jesus spoke.
Jesud called God in a way similar to “Allah”.
Very true.
Also worth noting this isn’t just a cognate with Arabic ʾIlāh (Allah) but also Hebrew ʾEloah/Elohim (which is the standard way hebrew speaking Jews refer to god in spiritual settings).
Don’t you dare attempt to explain that to an Evangelical Christian though
I tried pointing that out to my dad and he screamed “THATS BLASPHEMY” and turned purple.
That applies to pretty much every arabic word.
It’s not just limited to Arabic words: Arabic Numbers are scary, too…
“72% of Americans say children shouldn’t be taught Arabic numerals in school.”
Can’t wait to do algebra with Roman numerals.
Is that an X or an X?
Wow, 123456789 so scary.
Or dildos that look Arabic…
Remove it so they unban you.
Post it again, and add all this history too.
Immediately unsubscribe from their shit sub.
Just delete all the content and then stop posting: posting again has almost no effect as the mods have no social life and will manually delete the post within minutes, almost nobody would have the time to read it
Reddit is embracing the new christofascist dictatorship.
Is that the state flag of Ohio on the right side astronaut?
🔫 🧑🚀 always was
Such hypocrites. If it was about God or Jesus, no problem. Reddit hates people having different opinions. They prefer bots instead.
Allah is known in Christianity as God the Father, part of Trinity. Being an Abrahamic religion, Islam simply expands on Christianity, while describing much the same characters.
Except Muslims do not recognize the Trinity as a thing; God the Holy Spirit is to them Archangel Gabriel, and Jesus (Isa) is a prophet, not a Son of God.
If it was about God
The irony of this is that Allah literally means God.
It’s usually called islamophobia more than irony.
Main points aside, are these made from pull tabs? Cause they look like DIY pull tab rings.
Check out my handle people. I was permabanned because a mod form one of the subs had a personal vendetta against me, he or she ended up reporting me to Reddit HQ citing racism when I had a civil and celebrated comment on the sub. The topic was regarding poverty as an identity amongst young people in my country, obviously I got permabanned so I decided to leave Reddit as a whole, since the Reddit mods do not want to establish any kind of conversation so I could explain the situation in a better way. I was a 17 year active user as well, I am sure the mod who banned me was not even there when I signed up.
I started a new account a few months back and had to start building karma, so I was commenting a lot in the subs for new users. Every other day there was a post about “why can’t I post?” “Am I banned already?” etc. becasue reddit is trash, and I would respond explaining about karma thresholds and bots, and how reddit mostly doesn’t care about new people all that much.
I got a 3-day ban for “pushing an agenda” - which is backed by plenty of evidence that any mod of any community can see. But if you have an opinion that doesn’t work with a mod, out you go.
The Moderators of a viking themed subreddit being racists? No way!
they weren´t banned from r/viking, only from imadethis, if i read correctly.
thats correct. they will unban him from /r/somethingimade if they remove it from /r/viking
let me guess, the viking post is complaining about the mods on somethingImade?
How does this make any fucking sense?
It’s a tacit admission of wrong-doing from the user. In other words, the mods will unban him as long as he agrees that they didn’t make a mistake banning him, because all mods are vain, petty tyrants.
Oi. I’m taking that personal!
Are you a Moderator on reddit /viking?
Seems that I cant read anyways and completely missed that they werent banned from r/viking but from the crosposted sub.
Nah I left reddit 2 years ago, and never moderated anything.
I regularly write my God’s name on things. It’s an ancient Polynesian God, Fu’Ksa’Kes
It’s important to be respectful for fu’ksa’kes
I love that band
A reddit mod with a power trip is a hilarious thing. Pathetic that they were banned.
I dislike all religion for obvious reasons. Example, god would never allow the mass starvation of children no matter which god. He doesn’t work in mysterious ways. But freedom of speech to allow me to express my freedom to not believe in any god and to call god and any political party and or company stupid is Paramount to anything else.
I don’t get it, I don’t see any religious connotations and the rings look cool.
Example, god would never allow the mass starvation of children no matter which god.
What makes you think that? Your concept of a god is that if they exist they would conform to human ideals of good or that their own rules would apply to them. You could instead argue that if god isn’t good then they therefore do not deserve to be worshiped which is a fair argument as well. However, if god does exist, does not conform to human ideals of good, and there are consequences for not believing in it or obeying it’s orders then you’re just up shits creek.
Just to throw out some examples from the bible but God allowed Satan to torment Job because Job was a loyal and good person, God allowed Lot to offer his daughters for rape rather than some angels, God turned Lots wife into salt for looking in a direction, God flooded the world and killed everyone but one small family, the plagues of Egypt, when the Israelites came to the promised land they encountered other civilizations which God told them to kill every man, woman, child, and beast. We don’t need to look at modern examples, we don’t get past the old testament without it being clear that if the Christian (or Jewish for that matter) God exists he doesn’t follow his own rules.
I don’t know other religions as well as Christianity, but considering Islam, Judaism, and Christianity share some commonalities I’m going to lump them together. In Greek mythology the gods are straight up sadistic at times and the people were supposed to be ok with it, Hera tormented Hercules for being born and the Trojan War was started because one god didn’t get invited to another god’s wedding. I don’t know a lot about the Aztec gods, but as far as I can tell it was believed they required human sacrifice at least on some frequency. I’m sure there are more examples in other religions, but the fundamental argument is the same.
I’m not really trying to change your mind, I myself would probably be closer to agnositic, but a lot of atheists try to logic their way around the existence of god as if god is another person when in reality the relationship may be similar to you conversing with an ant. You might be right and god doesn’t exist, but to say they don’t exist because they allow suffering in the world is fundamentally counter to what most religions say about their god(s).
I’m trying to come up with a reasonable context for words “for Allah”. When have you heard anyone say “For Jesus”? In what scenario would you say it?
The Crusades?
The Crusades 2 (In Development)?
Exactly, but pointing out the historical context for this is going to get you downvoted.
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Oooo, what if I said I was doing it for God, though?
Nah, You’re right. I know the measure of this audience.
Something something kill the concept of a benevolent God and destroy capitalism. I don’t even disagree, but we got a little reductionalist.
The mind set just might have been a lot different from how we think today…
And if you want a copy of a 1000 year old ring, you really should copy it and not edit it to fit someone else’s notions about religion.
Second point makes me think you are misunderstanding the post.
They did not recreate a 1000 year old viking ring and carve “For Allah.”
They recreated a 1000 year old “viking ring with the words For Allah carved in it.”
The Viking likely getting the ring during a raid. Spain was Muslim-majority back then.
The mind set just might have been a lot different from how we think today…
I dunno who “we” is, but it’s exactly the same for the vast majority of people in imperial core. Just not with scary arabic. See my other comment for a few examples out of countless.
And if you want a copy of a 1000 year old ring, you really should copy it and not edit it to fit someone else’s notions about religion.
Why not? Who cares?
“We” is the majority of people compared to way back when and today. Don’t be obtuse. Just compare the thoughts and beliefs of one mere generation ago from anywhere on the planet as compared to today if you need an example. And people across the planet and history have always had different thoughts and beliefs than they do today. No matter your take on the “imperial core”.
As to why copy a rare 1000 year old design as close as possible? It’s their bauble and choice, not yours or mine, (though I will defend their right to do so). And besides it’s what the word “copy” means. Not “similar” or “kind of like it”.
“Jesus saves”, “God is my co-pilot”, “OMG”, “god is love”, “the lord is my savior”, “christ is king”, etc etc etc…
It’s literally everywhere in English. I’m constantly bombarded with the exact same stuff that the brainwashed cry about when it’s “allah”.
Except all your examples are in opposite direction whereby god does something to you or loves you.
god would never allow the mass starvation of children no matter which god.
Pretty simplistic conception of god.
That’s the assumption that god is benevolent and would like to not murder people. Any other god doesn’t deserve any admiration.
If there was nothing to tell you that those gods exist then you’d never know and wouldn’t be bothered by connecting bad or good things to the existence of a god.
But as we know, Gazan people and Ukrainians are being murdered every day for ~the past 5 years. At any point of those 5 years of suffering god could have stopped it. But nah, ratchet it some more instead. and that’s reason enough to not believe in a god or to even hate an asshole in power who won’t move a finger to prevent suffering. And I don’t need to stand on moral high ground. I think most of us could agree that feeding the hungry is the logical thing a good person would be doing at this time.
That really only addresses one kind of conception of deity, namely the mono-theistic, primarily Abrahamic variations. As one alternative, if you let go of the idea that a God or Gods must be omnipotent, then things become relatively more sensible. In polytheism for example, you have deitys who are associated with all kinds of things, some that we consider positive, and others we consider negative. These kinds of models at least tend to more accurately fit the way things actually go in life - sometimes justice prevails, sometimes it doesn’t.
Or as another model, there’s the highly dualistic Cathars. For them there was two principles, one Good, the other Evil. Their argument was essentially that God’s power was inseparable from God’s nature, and thus God is incapable of doing anything that goes against their nature to do - including any harm even to evil itself. This model is very reminiscent of the kinds of criticisms people often have of those who practice strict nonviolent ideologies - that their ways and methods lack potency, or any efficacy to adequately deal with malicious forces.
Not all models even assume God is benevolent. Most Gnostic branches outright believe that the chief deity of this universe is either blind and inept at best, or outright malevolent.
At least as far as I understand some Buddhist cosmologies, the Devas, while being powerful beings roughly equivalent to most polytheistic religions, they are neither considered to be the creators of reality or the universe, nor even have complete dominion over it, or even complete knowledge of it. They are also subject to samsara just as we are, and suffering ultimately is inherently baked into reality. An interesting quirk of some Buddhist sects is the notion that even deitys from other religions can be persuaded to follow Buddha’s teachings to follow the path out of suffering.
And then of course there are the pantheistic and panentheistic models, which stress the inseparability of deity and universe. The “we are God” groups. Why doesn’t God end the suffering and evil in the universe? Yeah, why don’t we do more?
Just wanted to give some examples to illustrate that there are a lot of religions with a lot of perspectives on what’s called the problem of evil. Want to be clear that I have no interest in changing whatever your beliefs are. I just think it’s boring and unfortunate that people usually only bring up the problem of evil when they’re using it to criticize the easy punching bag religions.
A shitty mod that should lose their mod status and/or have the sub suspended temporarily.
- Doesn’t give a warning, just goes straight to a ban. Lazy mod.
- Says the words “for allah” promotes terrorism. I’m critical of Islam but even I wouldn’t make such an obviously bigoted claim.
I don’t think reddit would actually stand for this. We’re not that far down the road…yet.
Its not even Islamic, arab-speaking Christians say they worship Allah too, its literally just a translation.
Some of us Atheists unironically wear religious stuff because it looks stylish, because the words sound cool, or because we like and appreciate the fandom of a particular story, even if we realize people made it all up. I can wear Dr Who swag for the same reasons.
It is like why people get Chinese character tattoos and “engrish” packaging and tshirts are popular in east Asia.
And similarly why you find a lot of Caucasians with Mandarin script tattooed on their skin. It’s cool, they like the meaning, and they don’t have to be Confucian or whatever
What are the odds that a Viking raider wore this ring ironically?
More likely it was because the Vikings worked as mercenaries around Europe and for the Byzantines. There is a railing in the Hagia Sophia in Istanbul with runes carved into it by bored Vikings. They would’ve picked up items from all over the world in the process. They’ve also found Islamic coins in hoards found in Scandinavia.
The owner of this ring probably didn’t even know what was carved on it, it just looked nice.
https://www.cnn.com/2015/03/19/europe/sweden-viking-arabic-ring
Dios! Gott! Kami!
but can’t say Allah… go figures…
Doesnt it need to be Kami-sama?
God only said to honor thy father-san and thy mother-san, didn’t really have clear instructions on himself.
Ty :)
So anyone else saying Kami-sama is by their own wish to honor kami, yes?
fascist takeover complete
Keep dreaming little one…
Lemmy isnt any better, I’ve been banned from a few Lemmy communities for wrong think or cause someone got mad that I disagreed with them. When you ask for clarification you get the same hostile bullshit that Reddit mods had. Having people mod communities is always gonna fail, because someone with a power trip and hurt feelings will always she the one applying to be the mod
Being banned by overt islamophobia is generally worse than vague complaints about “wrong think”. Suspicious AF.
The only people im phobic about is Americans, and im indigenous so…
