On so many different news items, threads, etc. People are the first to claim pretty much anyone who has made a mistake, or does something they disagree with deserves to die.
Like, do some people not have the capability to empathise and realise they might have been in a similar place if they were born in a different environment…
I genuinely understand, you think a politician who has lead to countless deaths, a war criminal, or a mass rapists deserves to die.
But here people say it for stuff that falls way below the bar.
A contracted logger of a rainforest (who knows if they have the money / opportunity to support their family another way). Deserves to die.
A civilian of Nazi germany of whom we know nothing about their collaboration/agreement with the regime. Deserves to die.
Some person who was a drug dealer and then served their time. Deserves to die.
Like I don’t get it? Are people not able to imagine the kind of situations that create these people, and that it’s not impossible to imagine the large majority of people in these positions if born in a different environment?
It’s the one thing we all deserve, the great equalizer. That’s not what you are asking, I know but still.
anonymity allows people to be not very nice
There’s a blast from the past.
2004
There is a pretty decent chance I saw that on the day it was posted. I feel old. 😔
You’re not nice! I wish you were dead!
same
Wait, you wish thouartfrugal were dead? Or you wish yourself were dead?
Phrasing left your statement vague.
I wouldnt wish death on someone else
That’s horribly unempathetic of you.
im sorry?
I just said how after a certain amount of time, people begin suffering if they live that long. We’ve never seen what happens if a person live to be 150 years old, but I assume it would be a level of suffering that people who are 105 haven’t even begun to experience, and never will.
You saying that people should live forever, just means they get about 90ish years of decent living, and then an eternity of suffering. I’m saying that everybody deserves to die.
I’m so glad we’re all on the same page, does this mean we should be friends now?
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It’s a lot easier to feel like you’re not involved when you’re behind a screen hundreds of miles away.
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A lot of perceived suffering in this world can make a person feel as though a lot of people do on fact deserve to die.
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Because it’s a bit of an echo chamber and people get too involved in stuff with anonymity. You will find this sort of social behaviour all over the internet and from any “camp”. It’s just bad people.
Because they’re a stranger. I don’t know them and probably never will. Oh they did something shitty that cost someone else their life? Good, they deserve to die and I hope they burn in hell.
Because I don’t know them and they commited something I think is evil. There’s no purpose in me humanizing them. I humanize the actual people in life I interact with.
Also its impotent rage
Thats brainless tbh. Thats the type of mindset that makes everyone a slave to their emotions because they all just react without thinking deeply/compassionately.
Its simply a lack of self control and critical thinking that leads people to lose their empathy
Ok. Don’t really care about what some random asshole online thinks I’m just explaining to OP.
I’m not changing.
No worries bud consider it an explanation to OP to nullify yours
Well thats to be expected. Does a fish swim?
Idk anyone who can’t figure this out deserves to die.
/s
I don’t know about others, but I don’t think anybody deserves to die necessarily. It is faaaaar too merciful a fate for horrible people. I believe the worst of humanity - rapists, murderers, child abusers, etc. - deserve to live long, painful, oh so horrible lives.
My choice would be to put them inside of a 3 meter cube of steel, welded shut, with only a hamster bottle for water, a hole in the bottom for waste, and a nutrient paste dispensing chute. When the prisoner eventually dies, it is bury the whole thing out in the desert to be their unmarked tomb.
Very edgy.
This is human nature. It’s the same reason you had 20 year olds sucker punching 70 year old asian women during lockdown. Cowardice and a need to lash out.
No. It may be the nature of some subset of people. Those people should die.
I have to ask, is this about the TiL post regarding Soviet Labor camps? Because I saw that right after this.
Partly. But it’s been building up in me for the past few months. Like I legitimately see it every day on lemmy.
I think there’s a part of our brains that treats these stories as fiction—in particular, the kind of folk fiction used to reinforce community mores. The strength of our reaction to such stories signals how strongly we support the standards, not necessarily what we think should be done in real life to those who violate them.
Along with other things said here, people tend to “forget” that there’s a real person on the other end.
I vaguely recall Nicholas Christakis talking about a study they made, where they created a bot which would simply remind people of the fact that there’s a real person on the other end, and they found that it would help. (That study was done in some university platform and is centuries old in internet time, though. I think he spoke about it about 6 years ago on podcast with Sam Harris.)
As someone older than the public internet, these people and positions always existed. The difference in my opinion is that the 24-hour news cycle and online echo chambers combined with less in-person meeting, particularly with others in the community different to oneself has just further isolated and polarized people. There’s also an argument that heavily-biased cable “news” (which is oftentimes more “opinions” and sometimes “outright lies”) going unchecked has further polarized and divided people.
It’s a psychological consequence of polarization, which occurs when you have too many people in a social group agreeing with each other.
Groupthink elevates extreme opinions.
It goes both ways when youre too stuck in your bubble reinforcing your opinions or in a group thats equally stuck in their own bubble
Because EVERYBODY deserves to die!
Seriously. Have you ever visited anyone who was 105 years old? They aren’t enjoying life. They just exist. Now imagine how much agony you’d be in if you were 500 years old. Or a million years old.
EVERYBODY deserves to die.
It’s essentially virtue signalling, whether it’s online or offline. Since nobody is “for” serial rapists, for example (the current Republican candidate for president notwithstanding), the differentiation is being against “by what degree.” Calling for maiming, execution, torture, etc. positions the speaker as “better than” someone who doesn’t, to some people.
fantastic explanation. Thank you.
