Milton rapidly intensified to a Category 5 hurricane late Monday morning.
Within hours, Milton strengthened to a Category 2, then a Category 3, then a Category 4 and finally a Category 5.
Milton now ranks as the third-greatest 24-hour wind speed intensification for a hurricane in the Atlantic Basin. (Records are based on data since the satellite era began in the 1960s.)
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I saw some models basically saying how unpredictable this hurricane is to the point that forecasts are all over the map, from landfall as Cat 2 all the way up to it maintaining Cat 5. Most predictions think it will land as a strong Cat 3, but the variance is really high.
“Climate change isn’t real”
Don’t look up
This graphic from The Weather Channel is terrifying.
Most tsunamis are less than 10 feet high
https://www.weather.gov/safety/tsunami-about
Cities can’t be protected from this long-term.
Florida’s elevation
That image is in meters, so it’s bad, but not quite as bad at first glance.
I wasnt trying to deceive, but everything in pink and blue is gonna get fucked.
That’s pretty bad… How is it so flat??
So hurricanes can pass across without losing too much energy.
It is all in the design.
Excuse me, is that feet???
I had to do a double take on that.
Terrifyingly, yes it is.
Some “Day After Tomorrow” kinda shit right there
SWEET! Surfs up!
To soon?
Jerry Pournelle and Larry Niven wrote a book called Lucifer’s Hammer about a comet hitting the Earth. There’s a part where all the surfers in the ocean off of L.A. know they’re going to die, so they decide to ride the tsunami and get taken out one by one as they get smashed into buildings.
One pancake to go!
I think I heard about the book you were talking about
Unfortunately, at least from videos I’ve seen of the Indian Ocean tsunami and the Fukushima tsunami, tsunamis don’t really “break” like good surfing waves and instead seem to act more like a large swell that keeps going instead of ebbing.
(A mega-tsunami from a comet impact might be so large it would act differently, though.)
I’ll be honest, it’s one of the least believable parts of a book which overall reads as quite plausible, but it’s a fun chapter. Neither of the authors are/were scientists, so they were bound to get some things wrong. It was also written almost 50 years ago, so I’m guessing the science they did work with has been supplanted in a lot of ways since then.
That would make for a great scene in a disaster movie.
Honestly, the whole book would make a great miniseries. Probably too much for just one movie.
Too bad Larry Niven is and Jerry Pournelle was such right-wing assholes, because their published some great stuff.
You’re surfing all the way to sooner island from Florida‽
Where is sooner island?
Oklahoma, duh.
Just never heard of it called sooner island
before later island
No. There’s always a bunch of surfers that go out for hurricane waves. I assume some have a death wish.
Ok, Bodie.
The key says elevation is in meters, so it’s about 3 times less terrifying.
/s
Could be worse… at least it’s not in Meters.
Yet.
It is in meters and since that an elevation map of Florida, that is the better scenario.
Basically all the areas in purple and dark blue are low enough for the storm surge to flood them. If it was feet, then the blue-green will probably be underwater as well.
The question about ft came right below the elevation map, but it was a top-level comment on the OP and not a sub-comment about the elevation map.
Seems you were confused about this order of comments too but unfortunately you’ve taken downvotes for it.
Holy fuck people. It says right in the image that it’s in meters.
So not only lemmings can’t read, a comment asking for info staring you in the face has 55 upvotes… and the wrong answer has 38.
snekerpimp was responding to FlyingSquid, not baldingpudenda.
Well, that’s egg on my face. Thanks for the correction.
If it makes you feel better, it seems like you’re not the only one who missed the thread indent 🤷♂️
Indents are hard to do well. Maybe impossible? Should be effortless to read but seems to never happen. Maybe just one of those things.
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Oh shit, those numbers are feet, not inches. That took me a moment. Fuuuuuck.
For those across the pond, 3658mm of rain (12’)
Really sets it in seeing it in mm
Edit: See below comment, I completely misinterpreted the storm surge meaning
No that is storm surge.
So it’s the hurricane pushes that much water onto the shore through force and can get that high of water above sea level.So more akin to a slow tsunami where a hurricane pushes up to 3.6M of water up onto the land then it rains more on top of that. Storm surge is mostly the reason for the houses on pillars too.
I see, thanks for the clarification and bonus tidbit on that!
If only we could have foreseen this somehow
Agreed. Maybe we can measure the temperature globally and compare it to past readings. Nevermind, that would be crazy.
That sounds like socialism!
I’m surprised DeSantis hasn’t required that the storm surge be listed in meters to make it appear smaller and less of an issue.
Use decameters to make the number smaller and less people will understand or care.
Meters are communist. He’s dumb enough to require it be listed in leagues.
He’s coming for his red stapler. You stole it. Now it is time for revenge.
Milton could put strychnine in the guacamole.
Headed straight for L Ron Hubbard.
How about boosting the funding for FEMA? Another cluster fuck in the making thanks to the GOP.
Why? If people die because they don’t fund fema and Florida governor don’t take calls from Harris, then they blame it in Biden’s America. The immigrants took all the funding for hurricanes, remember?
Ugh, I hate so many things right now.
Bullshit. Go read the FEMA website about the their funding, especially how the disaster relief and immigrant funding is completely separated. Furthermore, the $750.00 is a Serious Needs Assistance that helps people to buy food, baby formula and the basics.
…no shit.
To be honest this Guarantees Florida goes Red this round when it was getting close to turning back to purple. Tampa and Orlando both vote Blue, and many people will get displaced. Mail will be lost, voting locations will be destroyed, and you can’t just show up to any polling place to vote. “Oh you moved across the state because your house is flooded, well you can vote 350 miles from where you are now, or you can vote by mail, we sent it to your mailbox that doesn’t exist anymore”
That is so incredibly fuuuuuuucked
Yarp, remember Florida took to long in 2000 to get the votes counted when Florida’s supreme Court was turned down by the U.S. supreme Court to allow time to do one final recount as things were off.
They awarded all 25 Florida electorial votes to George Bush, and Gore stepped down to allow it to be a civil process.
If it takes to long to count Desantis only needs one round of Votes to show they were ahead, and stall on placing electors using his election police he created at his side to help the U.S. supreme Court double down on their original ruling 24 years ago
https://www.britannica.com/event/Bush-v-Gore
The count showed Gore won the Vote, would have won the election. Without it, we may have never invaded Iraq.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gore-comes-out-swinging-on-iraq/
Since then, Florida has outgrown New York, going from 25 electoral votes to 30. The effects of Florida going 1 way or another is huge
What. The. Fuck.
I’m watching the live stream from WFLA, which is a St. Petersburg station. He’s a photo of a bridge leaving the area right now (just after noon on Tuesday Florida time.)
Either most people with cars have evacuated or there are a lot of people who may learn the last lesson of their lives. I hope the former.
Also, the eye apparently will pass right over Cape Canaveral.
They’ve been evacuating all day, i was watching streams with roads bumper to bumper at 8am today
I guess their god doesn’t like florida. I wonder why?
On a more serious note I really hope all the decent people of florida the best of luck. To the rest I hope you only get thoughts and prayers.
Thanks…I’m trying to make the place suck less
confusing username but good luck!
In this world of self appointed warriors for good who seem to think the goal is to control others. Evil is the new good.
Floridas gonna be the next Atlantis, a mysterious land that vanished under the ocean from which tales came of strange people comitting outragous deeds. Future historians will see the tales of the mighty ‘Florida Men’ and assume it was some kind of myth.
More like Doggerland a place having verifiably existed, and which would hold answers to what man’s primitive ancestors were doing, but which we don’t really go to look at, because studying shit that’s underwater is expensive and we’re not that interested.
I wonder why?
Anytime Americans are asked which state would you get rid of, Florida is the top answer.
Maybe their god is starting to listen.
/s
Don’t hurricanes normally go the other way? I thought they normally blow towards the southwest?
Not since Democrats got behind the controls. /S
Gulf hurricanes can do this, and they can become some of the strongest hurricanes very quickly. One or two of the massive storms in 2005 were gulf hurricanes
Hurricanes don’t like it when you ban books. Prayin for you, florida man.
A lot of whats about to happen to Florida in the coming months will be self inflicted because of their politics.
florida is like 55% republican. I’d wager many know how dumb it is
hi from Europe, from here it looks like we brought this unto ourselves together.
Let’s go Milton
I’m gonna tell myself that this is finally bad enough to spur widespread action on global warming as a way of feeling better about it and you can all preemptively shut up with your reality checks.
Are you doing okay? I feel kind of the same way I think.
I’m gonna tell myself that this is finally bad enough to spur widespread action on global warming
I, too, want to believe that humans are capable for caring enough about themselves, each other, and their descendants in order to put in place measures to make the world better for everyone.
Tbh I’ve learned a lot about how thermal energy affects these storms and I gotta say, the only people who are gonna be living in Florida 20 years from now are people who live in submarines.
We ought to be executing oil company CEOs for treason.
In Germany more than 200 people died in a severe flooding in 2021. Just 2 month prior the conservative party CDU removed flood protection laws in one of the states most affected. In one of the towns completely destroyed they were again voted strongest just a few months later.
Florida gonna look like Fallout4 post Hurricane Milton and Hurricane season ain’t even over…
You would think religious people would say this is a sign. They probably do but apply it in the wrong direction.
It turns out it is a sign of Dems having weather control devices.
Of all the gay lasers, the purple ones and those of higher frequency like UV and EUV have the most photonic power.
just makes them delve into conspiracy thinking even more
In the 2000’s, religious people would blame hurricanes on things like gay marriage.
And the radio waves were just full of their bloviating
It’s only a sign when it hits blue states. In red states it’s HAARP or the Jewish space lasers.
Or it was a test and anyone who didn’t survive wasn’t faithful enough.
Yeah, they think it’s a sign that “too many gays” are now in Florida, and God has to punish the sodomites.
Trying to get Florida Republicans to do any amount of introspection would be like trying to teach an ant to play basketball.
Ohh shit.
So how much overlap is there with the previous Helene path?
The panhandle is getting a lot of rain, but there is a lot of overlap with Ian’s path… namely our house :/
For direct path on landfall, probably none unless it turns northwards. But the west coast of florida just ate the rain, storm surge and wind from Helene and will now get the full brunt of Milton.
A lot of overlap from the flooding, more wind from Milton. I know a few people who have had to gut their houses already from Helene and expect it to flood again this week.
Little, this is going to hit Florida directly (moving east from the gulf) and then go into the Atlantic. It won’t make it into the rest of the country, fortunately.
Unless it does one of those classic 180s where it swings back around and hits the atlantic
Minimal. Helene went north, and really only hit the pan handle area, Milton is going East and is going to pass through the middle of Florida.
One of the things I’m wondering about is whether Helene chopped up the water and caused some overturning/cooling that may lower surface temps.
And if it did (or did so to a meaningful degree), is that helping to temper Milton before it makes landfall?
And I guess I’m commenting here because you seemed so confident. (Maybe you’re just making it up as you go along, too. Who knows?!)
That’s probably why everyone is super split on the landfall category of the hurricane.
That should play an impact and overcast and heavy rain should make for a less welcoming Florida.
However we have seen that shallower waters by the coast have been very very hot lately and do a lot to bump up hurricanes as they near the shallows and it could intensify the storm again as it nears land.
Tampa doesn’t get hit directly by storms and they don’t generally form to category 5 hurricanes in about 12 hours in the gulf of Mexico so there is a lot of new science and prediction work to be done here so it’s a lot of guessing till it does.
At least mid Florida is mostly higher elevation for dealing with the storm surge. The winds will be brutal.
Even though it was like 100 miles off shore, the Tampa Bay area had an 8 foot storm surge with Helene that killed 12 people and ruined tens of thousands of homes and businesses. There are piles of debris everywhere along the coast that are going to become projectiles in hurricane force winds of they can’t be picked up in time. Almost the entire western coast of Florida saw significant impact from Helene
That’s still probably better than if there was debris from a direct hit.
Well yes, two direct hits would be worse. Was just saying Helene had a pretty severe impact on the areas that are going to be hit directly this time
