At least on the communities i follow. Every so often I come across a thread where i recognize most of the users there even in the big communities with over 30k members and I haven’t even been on lemmy that long.
Smaller community, so the power users (like myself, FlyingSquid, The Picard Maneuver and others) will undoubtedly be more prevalent than the many, many other users that barely post at all.
Non respect
some of those are also the same kind of power tripping neckbeard discord mods we fled from by leaving reddit. (fragile ego ban incoming in 3…2…1…)
I don’t understand what neck beard means. I see it used, but I still can’t really figure out what it means. The other thing I don’t understand is incel, not that you used that word but it’s another one that I see used frequently that I don’t understand. Are the two related? Also, I’m old In case you couldn’t tell
From Wikipedia:
“Neckbeard” is a pejorative term and stereotype for an adult man or teenage boy who exhibits characteristics such as social awkwardness, underachievement, or pretentiousness.
And incels are described as:
An online community of young men who consider themselves unable to attract women sexually, typically associated with views that are hostile toward women and men who are sexually active.
Certainly not related communities but could conceivably overlap. Not surprising that a lot of Internet trolls fall into one of those categories.
Thank you. Yeah, i guess i could have googled. Makes more sense to me now.
Neckbeards: having “facial” hair that basically only covers the neck. It’s the idea that these guys who don’t have the facial hair to grow a full beard have poor hygiene.
Incel: Involuntary Celibate, shortened to incel. Someone who can’t get laid for one reason or another. The propblem being the people who generally self-identity as incel, who are usually toxic and sexist.
These aren’t necessarily linked, but incels are usually the type to have such poor hygiene as to have a neckbeard.
Ohhhh. Thank you!
I thought neckbeard referred to a hipster beard. That makes more sense now.
Weirdly, sex has changed in the last couple of decades. When i was young (back in my day 🤦) women could get laid anytime they wanted and men had to put in a little effort. So when i hear involuntarily celibate, i just think ‘don’t be a dick. You’re gonna have to work a little for it,’ but i guess they’re not getting any because they’re misogynistic?
Lots of people just can’t or don’t get laid for plenty of reasons, shyness or some kind of disinterest does not an incel make. An incel is mostly synonymous with what you probably think of when you hear basement dweller, but inverse the elitism and with an added sexual element. extreme misogyny, extreme entitlement towards women, extreme resentment towards the sexually active, occasionally fixated on the idea of masculinity, and overwhelming self hatred.
the same kind of power tripping neckbeard discord mods
I’ll never understand the intense and visceral anger some people on the internet have towards facial hair. Also really leaning into the 4chan-esque Everyone Online Is Dudes trope.
Because a neck beard isn’t facial hair. It’s neck hair. Neckbeards are usually indications of poor hygiene rather than some appreciation of facial hair
I can’t believe I’m defending neckbeards but…hey if Ringo Starr can rock the neckbeard, it’s not all bad!
And I’m sure loads of people with neckbeards have overall poor grooming and hygiene, but I’m also sure plenty have good hygiene.
Lol, Ringo does not look great in that photo and it’s partly due to the neck beard.
Ringo is a king, my friend ✌🏻
You wanna mod instead, go do it.
He has a point so do you lol
Why is it whenever I see a comment like this, the modlog always shows the person bitching about the mods having several sexist/racist/homophobic/misinformative comments that have been removed…? 🤔
because that’s the excuse mods use to get rid of differing viewpoints. Anything they disagree with is suddenly ‘bigotry’.
You know we can see what you posted that was removed and not just the reason the mods gave, right?
And most of it was rooted in facts
“COVID vaccinations were effective, but not safe.” - ichbinjasokreativ
Also the claim that immigrant workers are “uneducated rapists,” and weird nonsense comparing trans people and how “they mutilate their genitals” to circumcizing a baby.
“Facts.”
All of this is accurate information. Covid vaccines were widely adopted at the same time as spikes in lung related hospitalization, in covid-negative people. Refugees were advertised to us in europe as being the well-educated middle class of their respective countries, which turned out to be a lie and the offiacial, government issued statistics on violent crime and spicifically sexual crimes showed massive increase since we let millions of them into our country. Also, the fact that mtf trans people need to insert stretching devices to prevent their mutilation wound from closing is true as well. Reality isn’t always comfortable.
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I do in fact recognize all those users including you
But do you recognize me!?
I don’t remember you, but i remember that post about google maps
I think it’s good that you don’t remember me. I always obey the rules of good grammar.
Yeah, you are very recognisable, but people like me, who lurk most of the time, comment maybe once a month.
Not very memorable.
I see you everywhere and I enjoy it. Thanks for contributing to all the conversations. O7
I literally scrolled through looking for your comment.
There’s one user that seems to be everywhere and it’s probably the same user everyone is thinking of right now lol.
I’m also surprised I come across other “agents” on here more frequently than I would expect.
I have no idea what you’re talking about.
I have no idea what you’re talking about, says the chump who has a series of precisely 103 formulaic knife reviews posted here.
Want to know about a really weird knife? Go check out what a tecpatl is.
tecpatl
Those Aztec weapons are awesome. We need more movies taking place in pre-Columbian times.
The trick is not to read the usernames. I imagine myself surrounded by millions of mostly sensible people!
everyone reading this should introduce lemmy to at least 1 cool person in their life. thats what it needs.
Real talk
I tried multiple times. They give me dirty looks and grief about all the political extremist content here. We who know how to block it tend to forget, but for a newcomer it’s definitely off-putting. And yes X is that way these days too, but people already know it and don’t visit it for the first time, so it gets grandfathered in.
We have some work to do before we will go mainstream.
Several instances block hexbear and lemmygrad, that can be a starting point
Yes but the only one I’ve ever seen that blocks all of the big 3 is lemmy.cafe. And even that does not block posts that advocate for violence - e.g. an example from literally yesterday, and this one from a memes community on Lemmy.world, from a user on sopuli.xyz.
Note that I am not advocating for removal of such content, only relating how in my personal experience, suggesting the Fediverse to normies has never once turned out any other way than badly. Granted, hexbear.net for its severity and lemmy.ml for its large userbase are probably 99.9% of the issue, but especially until after the election I have no plans to tell people about Lemmy anymore. After that, if lemmy.cafe still has Lemmy.ml removed, I will probably tell people about that one as an entry point.
Which isn’t all on its own going to push the Fediverse into the mainstream, until we do more cleanup to make normal people feel welcomed rather than scared to be here.
If they follow through and block .world and .ee, then they can really get a handle of the extremism.
Problem is they miss out on all the other content as well
What is the issue with lemm.ee? Is it members or communities?
I think they mean you would see more extreme people if you block those two servers.
Seriously? I moved to lemm.ee because it has a fair, democratic approach to federation, and doesn’t defederate at the drop of a hat.
I’d personally rather be able to see more perspectives and block the crazy at my own discretion.
That works too. Like some people prefer Arch btw, and that’s wonderful. But… mainstream normies aren’t likely to want that. Anyway, lemm.ee is already awesome and exists:-).
It’s called a community. If Reddit doesn’t seem like this anymore, it’s because half those people are actually AI.
I notice a lot of the same people in most of the popular posts. I guess it’s because the quantity of people that usually comment vs voting or just reading post is pretty low, so you’ll start to recognize them everywhere
It makes me wonder if people recognize me from other posts I comment on!
Be the change you want to see. Post and comment. Start a sub.
That’s more difficult than it would seem. Especially since the niche stuff i would be interested in fostering is… well… niche. And lemmy isn’t that large. YET!
What interest is it?
Have a look at [email protected] for list of existing active communities
[email protected] for people who make communities grow
Mostly just anime specific communities and other hobbies. Thanks for the info though. Maybe I’ll get around to making a community
[email protected] us usually fit for discussions about specific animes
Feel free, yesterday I discovered we had [email protected] , so sometimes it’s just there, but unknown
Might i say that you’re always doing a good job of promoting these communities as well. Kudos to you!
Happy to help !
One dedicated person is sometimes all it takes to Kickstart a community. Every lemmy comm or their subreddit ancestors started the same way
One person can suffer from “shouting into the void”. Finding at least one other regularly poster helps a lot
I’ve started a few communities. I have to admit that attempting to be the one dedicated poster has burned me out of a hobby and made me not want to post anything anymore. It certainly isn’t for everyone.
The way I do it, is not to stress about keeping up a posting schedule. I just keep posting interesting stuff I find in the community and eventually more people gather. It’s how I started /r/piracy
Nah
FlyingSquid is our mrbabyman.
No there’s like four of us
Five!
I don’t know you!
Like friends!
I recognize most of the users there even in the big communities with over 30k members
Communities with 30k members could really do with pruning the completely inactive ones. It’s not like there’s any commercial reasons to pretend that places are busier than they actually are.
I disagree. There is nothing to be gained by removing people from a group. You can’t predict when they might suddenly become active and by removing them you’re abrogating their ability to participate.
thoughtful. my issue here is while a community is nascent, isnt building maintaining an honest reflection of the community important?
I have joined a few tiny locally communities based on one post/comment. I may never return and the community traffic is irregular.
in a situation like that I can see a mod pruning me away for zero comments in a year. however that is a form of censorship. so its back to the default of mods run their communities as they wish and, if you disagree find/create another community or instance.
thanks for the thoughful comment.
It’s a trade-off, I guess. Admittedly, there’s not much benefit the user (though they could be warned via email if their account is going to be de-activated). There is however a benefit to the community, in that it can provide more reliable data to see if it’s trending in popularity (a 100 extra users isn’t significant if it thinks it has 30k users, but it moves the needle if that number is at a more realistic level).
Shouldn’t popularity be based on activity, not membership though?
It’s a useful metric. Maybe it’s the better one, but personally I’d like to see good data from both.
Lurkers need to subscribe for the content to appear in their Subscribed feed. Kicking them out may simply result in them rejoining again. It would be a constant struggle against that.
Plus, if such purges occur routinely, then what about a major poster who takes a break, even if for like a year (let’s say they have a baby)? Actively getting rid of lurkers sends a signal that they are not welcomed. Especially if in the future Lemmy adds the ability for mods to have to approve join requests.
Whereas simply using “monthly active users” avoids all of that. Do as you please with any of your communities - in which case it would be helpful for the sake of transparency to literally add it to the rules (those who don’t participate will eventually get purged) - but I thought I would list out some of these issues, in case it helped!:-)
absolutely. careful pruning and caretaking is how you nurture good communities. excellent comment.
I’ve stopped referring to community sizes - especially when there hasn’t been a post for a year. Instead, monthly active users is where it’s at:-).
Hello cousin! Wanna go bowling?
Only if you tell me what your name means
It’s based on the Swedish chef from the Muppets
Basically I have a mustache, love to eat and cook on my spare time, but my food rarely makes sense (everyone thinks it tastes good tho)
I was hoping that was the reference 😂
