• Myxomatosis@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    41
    ·
    edit-2
    1 day ago

    Expecting Americans to do even the bare minimum, such as playing by the rules, is expecting way too much.

    • FenrirIII@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 day ago

      This is the truth. Americans have forgotten the common good and looking out for each other. The boomers began the culture shift towards selfish assholism and the subsequent generations have accelerated it.

  • Vanon@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    31
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    1 day ago

    Happily voted Harris, to defeat the christian fascists. But I think her concession confirms that she was never going to be the fighter we needed.

    First, Democrat’s gamble on pushing aside the progressive core (thanks to incorrect reading of Biden popularity and protests over Israel’s genocide) in favor of a coalition of former Republicans and mythical “decent conservatives” was a huge red flag. It has now proved absolutely catastrophic.

    Second, “the high road” has rarely extracted more than the absolute minimum at the slowest possible pace. This election proved it has failed us. Peace is not an option anymore. Unfortunately, we’re going to need to fight ruthlessly for every inch. Entrenched billionaire oligarchs, funding literally insane religious extremists and domestic terrorists. They will gleefully turn up the heat on our formerly cold civil war with their brutality over the next few years.

    • OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      18
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      20 hours ago

      The worst thing about Trump by far is his refusal to accept a peaceful transition of power. It’s a national tragedy that he will never be held accountable for that, and that his behavior has been validated by winning another election.

      I’m glad she is setting an example of what a peaceful transition of power looks like, for those who apparently aren’t familiar with the concept.

  • Nyciferi@kbin.melroy.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    14
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    18 hours ago

    I’m not accepting the results. Trump is not my President.

    I voted Harris and that was my pick.

    This is just absolute bullshit that she now turns and expects people who were voting not just for her, but voting for a continual track of progress for this country. She expects us to ‘accept it’. What about the people in LGBTQ who’re now fearing for their lives? Tell them to “Accept it” for what’s to come for them when the AmeriNazi Regime comes banging on their doors? What about the minorities who’re now fearing for their lives about getting deported? Going to tell them to “Accept it” as the AmeriNazi Regime scream and demand that they go back?

    What about the working class who’re now fretting over their resources and now looking down the barrel of having to take in more work and have little time to relax in life? Going to tell them to “Accept it” as the AmeriNazi Regime overworks and burns them out to death to support the upper class and corporate interests?

    Harris, I liked you and voted for you. But this is a ‘Fuck you’ to accepting the AmeriNazi Regime.

    • ryathal@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      11 hours ago

      You’re just as bad as the stop the steal trumpers when you ignore the election. You need to accept the loss, you don’t have to just go back to doing nothing though. You can work to recruit voters to your side for the next 4 years instead of just the few months before.

    • Shark_Ra_Thanos@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      15 hours ago

      I agree and stand the same. He is not and never was eligible to be a president. He is a fraud, a chronic liar and nothing else. I have zero respect for any of the three letter agencies in accepting his presence and with them, any of the “'supreme court judges” because they are not either. Not now and never.

      America is Dead. This is but a corpse and those are maggots.

  • shalafi@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    38
    ·
    1 day ago

    Of course she made a concession speech. Because Democrats are constitutionally unable to accept the reality we voted into power 2016.

    The party deserves extinction.

  • RubicTopaz@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    12 hours ago

    Liberals once again just giving over power to fascists. Tale as old as time.

    Not even gonna resist? Really?

    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      edit-2
      10 hours ago

      A bit different this time, since the people overwhelmingly voted for the fascist. The Nazi party in the late 30s only had a plurality in their parliament.

      But yeah it definitely rhymes… Though I’m honestly not sure what else they should do that wouldn’t result in all out civil war

    • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      115
      arrow-down
      12
      ·
      1 day ago

      And what did you want her to tell people to march to the capitol and hang the vice president being willing to certify the election?

      Nah, Americans voted for Trump and his fascism, his racism so let them have it.

    • Pennomi@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 day ago

      We can still try to obstruct via filibuster and other mechanisms. (Republicans have already shown us how to do it effectively.) But certainly no progress can be made for the next four years.

        • pivot_root@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          12
          ·
          1 day ago

          You’re putting far too much faith in the voters at this point.

          Depending on how the cost of living situation goes, Trump is either going to take credit for improvements set in motion before his 2024 term, or he’s going to astronomically tank it and blame it on the previous administration. No matter which happens, he will frame it to make himself look better than the Democrats while the MAGA crowd eats it up.

          • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            7 hours ago

            People’s feelings about the economy is the number 1 indicator of whether a party will be voted out of office.

            If Trump goes through with his insane tarrifs, inflation will skyrocket, people will be livid over the economy, and the Republicans in the Senate will be in real trouble.

      • lolcatnip@reddthat.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        1 day ago

        As if Republicans won’t eliminate the filibuster. They have no use for it because they don’t plan on being in the minority ever again.

  • Melkath@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    15
    arrow-down
    44
    ·
    1 day ago

    Shes fine with it.

    Every stance she took will be adhered to, and she is going to get the Republicans in the cabinet that she wanted so bad.

    • rigatti@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      21
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      1 day ago

      Somehow I think the person who would have been the first female president is not “fine” with losing to Donald Trump.

      • Melkath@fedia.io
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        20
        ·
        1 day ago

        If she really cared, maybe she would have declined the AIPAC money, set a redeemable platform, and sunk one of the easiest wins in US history.

        She didnt do that though. Did she?

        • jumjummy@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          17
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          1 day ago

          You’re in an echo chamber if you think the general population cares that much about the situation in Gaza. Funny how all you talking heads hyperfocus on this one aspect that most people don’t care enough about.

          If you truly cared about it, then you would understand that Trump is going to be oh so much worse.

          You and your ilk are a one note song.

          • Melkath@fedia.io
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            4
            ·
            15 hours ago

            +14 points against my -44, -17, and -18.

            You are championing genocide.

            Mathematical proof this is a pro-genocide fascist echo chamber.

            Again, you right wing fascists are why Trump is in office.

            I really hope that you will learn something from your pathetic electoral failure.

        • rigatti@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          8
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          1 day ago

          It’s not a matter of “not caring” to win. She miscalculated and campaigned wrong. Did Trump lose in 2020 because he didn’t care to win?

          • Melkath@fedia.io
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            21
            ·
            1 day ago

            Oh ya, miscalculated a whole shit ton of money into her pocket, again, still keeps all of her stances intact, and gets to cha ching make the AIPAC money ring and bury the Democrats again in 4 years.

            Youre right, its not that she doesnt care. Its that this is exactly what she planned.

    • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      23 hours ago

      When I felt disillusioned in 2016 from ratfucking and Trump winning, I got more and more leftist. Nothing has radicalized me after than the last 3 elections.

      Anarchism tries to help people without expecting a favor, unlike every other major political structure.

      • Makhno@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        21 hours ago

        Anarchism tries to help people without expecting a favor, unlike every other major political structure.

        Anarchism isn’t a political structure…? It’s the lack thereof, no?

        • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          9 hours ago

          To me, it’s the idea no structure compared to the idea of structure. Libertarians just want corporations to take it over, everyone else want a state.

          Perhaps I should have said it better, I’m kind of in a state of stress and “If don’t laugh at the situation, I am going to cry more.”

  • blazera@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    12
    ·
    1 day ago

    It aint even about moral high road, shes just ready to take the money and run.

  • henfredemars@infosec.pub
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    26
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 day ago

    What else is she supposed to say? Unfortunately, the people have spoken. They’re going to get what they have chosen and deserve at this point, and it’s a crying shame.

  • Miles O'Brien@startrek.website
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    60
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 day ago

    The moral high road is littered with corpses, and it looks like we’re bound and determined to add more to the pile.

  • LucidNightmare@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    21
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    15 hours ago

    So, I might get put on a list for this, but so be it.

    Does no one else here feel like a little bit of fuckery has happened in the election process?

    It’s like overnight everyone has forgotten about all those ballot boxes that were burned, multiple cases of ballot box interference (1,2), and the fact that Trump and his ilk are always projecting, which means that when he says a state or someone is cheating, it very well could mean that he and his cronies are up to no good. What about those bomb threats?

    Now, with all of that being said, I do NOT want to come off as the same of the likes of a Trump supporter. I do not want you all to look at me like I am trying to cause distrust in the system. I do trust the system (as much as I can of course), so let it be said here and now, I am not saying this as a matter of fact.

    These points, and the very quick and almost instant next day results, have made me very much question the LANDSLIDE that Trump had this year. Voter turn out was at an all time high, and I know that doesn’t mean a lot, but everything combined makes me a little inquisitive to the nature of the results. We know that Russian interference happened in 2016. We know about Russian interference in the 2020 election. We also expected, and are sure of, interference in this election of 2024. That’s not even counting all the billionaires and millionaires having private little meetings about how they can push the scales to their favor, Trump and Musk talking to Putin in private, and I’m sure there are plenty more that we can all find easily verifiable facts on.

    I guess what I’m trying to say, is that something felt more off about this election, than the past three, to me at least.

    Am I just being silly? Can someone help me here?

      • LucidNightmare@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        12 hours ago

        You are not alone. On the AP website’s live vote map, I saw quite a few suspicious looking “called” on states that hadn’t even started yet. I know it was an algorithm or prediction method, and maybe I didn’t look as hard in 2020 as I did this year, but I just can not help but question the amount of shit that happened THIS time not having an affect on the election. I am probably just being hopeful that SOMETHING pops up about all this in the following weeks. Do I believe it will? Nah, not really. We literally allowed a felon to run as president, so, yeah. Am I HOPEFUL? Yes, just a smidge.

        While the right is doing their little celebration dance, saying how they are going to do all of these terrible things, I just have the smallest smidge of hope that someone in power somewhere in the USA is collecting some damning evidence in the background.

        Crazy? I get it. Really just an emotional person trying to convince themselves there is someone looking into it on the basis of odd and/or suspicious.

    • Mcdolan@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      14 hours ago

      Honestly this has been knocking around in my head. Did truly less people vote this go around?

      We have more days of counting to go through but I’m honesty surprised at the numbers so far.

      If less people voted then fair, but something feels off. Kinda left with some uncomfortable possibilities if there’s a way to know the true number of people that voted.

      • LucidNightmare@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        14 hours ago

        I agree. If there really are that much less votes this year, and everything is clear as can be, then I concede my theory. It just seems so… strange? Like, he was literally sitting there claiming fraud, and then…? Nothing…? Just stopped peddling it, and won? Like, he got real confident, real quick…

    • Spezi@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      6 hours ago

      My wife voted from overseas (Germany) and her ballot is stuck in customs for 4 weeks now and didn’t arrive in time. We sent it through airmail with tracking and usually, letters arrive in a week.

      Thats begs the question: Why would a ballot be stuck in customs for so long and why does a letter have to go through customs in the first place

      Worst of all, she voted in Wisconsin where trump won by less than 30k votes. Online there are multiple people reporting that their ballot is stuck in customs. Could it be that postmaster general DeJoy is supressing votes by redirecting votes to customs? I assume that overseas votes from Europe are overwhelmingly for the Democrats.