And so it begins…

  • EnderMB@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    I don’t see him lasting his full term. Dude’s old, is incredibly unhealthy, and has enough power-mad people around him that the first sign of weakness will probably be enough for medical intervention and Vance becoming president. Becoming president AGAIN at his age is possibly the dumbest thing he can do for his health.

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      4 days ago

      This is something I don’t think they even acknowledge or think about. Some of their shit in comparing him to Hitler (and they do that in a positive manner) is when they claim that some of the shit that is happening to him is like him being imprisoned after the Beer Hall Putsch (referring to Jan 6th). This is stupid. Hitler was barely in his early 30s at the time and he was actually at the START of his political career. Trump was never imprisoned and when he did his shit he already had very real political power that Hitler never had in 1923.

      Trump the oldest presidential nominee ever and I hope that he will stay the oldest. We don’t need that kind of geriatic shit in any political office anywhere.

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      Sadly his Klan loving father lived to 93, and being POTUS is like having a dedicated one person ER following you around.

      Also, the office only ages you if you’re committed to performing the job, Trump uses the office to troll the people he can troll and, more urgently, personally profit for anyone that offers him or his businesses a bribe in exchange for a Presidential act. He doesn’t work even in business, he issues broad, pie in the sky dictates and encourages his own employees infighting about the details. He’s bragged about this.

      Trump was the first President in my lifetime to accelerate the aging of those he governed rather than himself. Like so many other things people seem to forget, he spent a lot of his first term golfing.

      Not that I’m complaining on that point, golf motherfucker! Do less!

  • demizerone@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    All it takes is one fair election to be won decisively by an autocrat. The democratic party handed it to this shit head. Worst yet, he doesn’t even have to rig the election system because the democrat party is fucking incapable of attracting voters and it doesn’t look like they are going to fix what is broken about the party.

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    4 days ago

    He’ll do what Putin did. Have Vance run as President, and run as his Vice-President. He’ll maintain control like Dick Cheney with Bush.

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      4 days ago

      Trump’s malignant narcissism won’t let him be subordinate to someone else. So that idea is out.

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          You know as well as I do the 14th is very vague and up for interpreting what a traitor is. The partisan Supreme Court already decided he’s not a traitor. Let it go already.

          The 12th is not vague and would need a super majority to override.

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            And you know as well as I do that my point is: the law doesn’t apply to trump.

            The only justice that might catch up with him is a heart attack from all the hamberders, but if that doesn’t happen by 2028 the supreme court will find some excuse for why he should be able to get a third term and approve it with a 6-3 vote

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              Supreme Court does not create laws. They interpret. When the law says “But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States,” there is nothing for them to interpret. It’s there in black and white.

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          The point is if they do not care, they wouldn’t even bother to pretend. He’d just stay in office or run again.

          The dance of running as VP doesn’t make any sense as either they don’t care and it’s not necessary, or they do care and that’s not a loophole that exists.

          Besides, IIRC Kanye and Trump had a falling out over a suggestion that Trump would take a backseat to Kanye in a campaign. Trump won’t settle for even the appearance of ‘second place’.

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      5 days ago

      Not really… This time America voted for the felon to become a dictator

      And the felon will do whatever he can to make it happen.

      Last time it was still a misguided presidency.

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        This time America voted for the felon to become a dictator

        No, they just voted for the term that runs 2025-1-20 to 2029-1-20. The dictator thing might end up happening, but it’s not what was voted on.

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          Fuck that, he said multiple times that he’d be a dictator (on day one). He’s talked about terminating the Constitution. He tried to overthrow the 2020 election. He’s the only person who has ever argued that Presidents should have immunity, and then his hand-picked Supreme Court gave it to him. He said multiple times that this is the last time you’ll have to vote.

          There is no gray area. He wants to be a dictator and will do EVERYTHING to make it happen. And his fucking supporters want it, too. Don’t give them any leeway and don’t give him any leeway. Call his and their bullshit out every fucking chance you get.

          There is exactly one argument that fascists understand.

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            People aren’t paying attention. This is the last legitimate election the US will have. They control all three branches of government. The words in the constitution are meaningless if no one is there to uphold them.

            We are experiencing history.

            Sept 9, 1776 - Jan 20th, 2025.

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          I load the gun, put it on my head, pull the trigger but i don’t want to die!

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          HE LITERALLY TOLD US, USING THE VERY WORD, THAT HE WILL BE A DICTATOR HOLY SHIT I’M LOSING MY MIND

          It is exactly what was voted on

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        in the 10 minutes of the Rogan interview I could stomach he talked about how surreal it all was, how it was a joke, he didn’t want to be a politician, and he didn’t expect to win.

        He was expecting it this time and he knows what he can get away with.

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          I don’t know how anyone could be impressed by that interview. It was 3 hours of a narcissist saying how great he is.

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            While Joe was interrupting him he almost sounded coherent. as soon as he let him go I honestly thought I’d had a stroke.

            If you made it through 3 hours of that you might want to get yourself checked out.

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          It could be that simple. He didn’t realize the potential the first time around and so many things got in the way, including a disaster that tried to force a leadership role on him. This time enough was changed and built up to prevent the obstacles, and he not only can avoid justice for his past, but he can, in his own words, “do anything and they’ll let you.”

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            5 days ago

            When you’re a demagogue, they let you do it. I just grab the country by the pussy, I don’t wait.

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    Wow, already in the first week. Expect to hear this joke periodically over the course of his term, each time getting slightly more seriously stated. By the third year, everyone will have heard it so much it’ll be accepted as a perfectly reasonable idea. And the media will help that along in how they report on it. This is the tried and true playbook and it will work, not only for this plan but for their other plans.

    Take for example the planned mass deportations. They’ll start out with finding some people who have committed crimes (or they claim have), deport them and no one will object to that, it’s already how it’s done. As they move on to those whose crimes are not very consequential, like traffic tickets or whatever, if libs say anything against it, they’ll pounce on it and amplify stories how the libs are overreacting and want criminals to be left free and have open borders. Harping on any criticism in cases that are technically justified is key to getting the public used to pooh-poohing any dissent as they start escalating and going after the law-abiding (other than being here illegally ofc) immigrants, families with mixed status members, DACA/Dreamers, parents of children born here and thus citizens and deporting the children with them, etc.

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    Forever could be thankfully short thanks to his awful health and lifestyle.

    But then these damn Skeksis stay on the throne a lot longer than should be possible.

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    It’s just a joke 🤣… he’s got like 5 years of good cognitive abilities tops. Then after he’ll be like all the other old farts. Barely makes any sense and is just totally old and dilapidated. No way they’re gonna keep him in power then. He might just croak.