Maybe I’m just face-blind or being dense but the photos from the scene of the crime look like a different dude than the ginning hostel check in guy. The jackets and backpacks are different. Although people can have multiple jackets and backpacks. We don’t see much of the shooters face but the eyebrows look different. Although, people can pluck/shave eyebrows. I guess the happy hostel guy would have come forward and been like “WTF?” and “I have an alibi” if it wasn’t him?
The assassin looks like he is wearing a black windbreaker style jacket and the other guy looks like he is wearing a cream colored dickies jean jacket with the grey hood like you get from walmart
Steal his look at a reasonable price!
But wait! There’s more!
Agreed. I would call the Dickies style barn jacket tan rather than cream though.
I knew the police is full of stupid fucks, but come on! Wtf is wrong with the pigs?
Pretty sure all of those pics are different people. I guess we’ll never find them, might as well give up ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No no no…we must continue to waste police resources over this!
Pretty sure it might have been Andre the Giant.
Or it could have been the Mexican Cleaning Lady from Family Guy.
No, no
How do they explain the bag changing colors?
Hes a chameleon
They were taken on different days.
Different days, different clothes, different person.
You can own more than one bag?
Guys planning a quick and carefully planned get away, so most likely traveling light with only what he needs. But yeah, of course he’ll bring two bags.
He’s shown a high degree of planning so far. Bringing a decoy bag and being casual in front of CCTV in not-his-clothes seems on the money at the moment. As soon as I heard he made a beeline for central park I bet he has a change of outfit and strolled out looking totally different. Sure enough they’ve found a bag in the park they think was his. He’s 2 to 3 steps ahead of them…
Why would he have two similar but different heavy jackets? 4D chess?
It’s cold, need something. “No jacket” would call attention. Gotta both be pretty nondescript not to call attention too, no hot pink or sports teams (maybe yankees in the city, but if he leaves NYC nondescript is better.)
We should know within a day because if flirty Starbucks guy isn’t him then that person will almost certainly come forward to get removed from investigation.
Why? Seems safer to just keep your head down. He didn’t do anything, why should he let the cops try to pin it on him?
A bunch of comments on here and Reddit about how police will do everything they can to make sure he’s seen as a threat during arrest and kill him? I don’t think that’s the case, but if this guy has nothing to do with it and felt the same it would be much safer to just walk into a police station and get ruled out of the investigation. Better that than risk a cop spotting him one day and thinking himself a hero.
I mean he’s got half of lemmy convinced
What’s interesting is that the grey bag which he ditched is not cheap. Sure it was £250 when I checked.
I really don’t know this guy has a long term plan. If I were to bed, his wife died after denied insurance. Or possibly a close family member or friend. The fact that he could afford health insurance or had it through an employer implies he probably had a decent job. So a person he was planning to grow old with is now dead, his plans for the future are ruined, probably doesn’t care about an item that costs a few hundred dollars. Maybe he wants to see how long he can evade the cops, but something tells me if they ever do catch the actual murderer, he’s not going to care much as in his eyes he lost his future when the person he cared about died.
Or he’s terminal himself and pissed off
Can’t say personally seen any of the security footage but from the sounds of it this guy was mingling with the crowd and not drawing attention to himself as well as able to book it down the alleyway. It’s not improbable that he’s terminally ill himself, but it’s hard for me to believe he’d be at a stage the doctor(s) said he was incurable/insurance denied him but still not far enough along it’s not affecting him in anyway noticeable way.
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Someone needs to paint some eyes in the pocket flaps and post it as a meme on the police website to just rub it in how fucking off they are on something so obvious.
These are not the same person. They fit the description, and where near the scene. Police would want to talk to both regardless.
Shh, don’t tell the NYPD that.
I guess the happy hostel guy would have come forward and been like “WTF?” and “I have an alibi” if it wasn’t him?
I sure as fuck wouldn’t. I know enough not to come anywhere near the police if they’re scrutinizing me for any reason, even if I know 100% I’m innocent and I can prove it. You absolutely cannot trust them not to just arrest you and railroad you into a bullshit conviction anyway, or plant some evidence, or decide “he had a knife” and just outright kill you. You know how they say “anything you say can be used against you?” That’s because they absolutely won’t use it to help you, even if you’re not guilty of anything.
I am positive city hall is breathing down the NYPD’s neck real hard right now. The entire department has got a lot of egg on its face for not being able to stop this guy, not being able to positively identify this guy, hell, not even know with any certainty where he went afterwards. They are under immense pressure to hang somebody – anybody – over this because they’re looking even more like chumps than usual.
So no, a wise man would not expose himself to the cops in any way whatsoever.
And if the cops do ask and want to pursue questioning you … you don’t talk to the cops in this situation and just ask for a lawyer … they ask what your name is - lawyer … what is your date of birth - lawyer … where are you from? lawyer … lawyer, lawyer, lawyer
Never talk to the cops, especially when the cops are desperately looking for a suspect.
Don’t ask. Tell them to get you your lawyer.
What if you don’t have a lawyer? I know the state can set one up for you, but I also know those lawyers are overworked. They take on something like 12,000 cases per year, and get on average 4 minutes to prepare your case.
Could I just call my mom and be like “FIND A LAWYER RIGHT NOW PLEASE!”?
It’s the state’s responsibility/problem to bring you a lawyer if you can’t afford one before the police question you. If the cops are so sure you committed a crime then they’ll charge you and get a public defender assigned so they can interrogate you with a lawyer present. If they don’t have enough evidence they’ll try to bully you into talking without a lawyer present and trick you into confessing. This is one of 403 reasons why it’s important to ask for a lawyer then shut the fuck up until your lawyer arrives.
You can use your phone call for whomever, just know it’s not private and you best hope whomever you call will actually help you.
The distinction I was making is that the response to “can you get me a lawyer?” could just be the cops walking out of the room and coming back several hours later and seeing if you’ve changed your mind. The same thing for “I’ll wait till my lawyer is here.”
Isn’t your “phone call” a Hollywood trope? It’s not like you get to gamble on the highest stakes call of your life (oops, line’s busy or you misdialed or whatever), but you only get one chance like it’s some legal gotcha the cops can pull on a suspect.
I’ve been in enough jails to say with some certainty: it depends. Like unmagical posted, some places you will absolutely get a phone call at some point. In others, it’s pretty much an ‘executive privilege.’
The truth lies in the squishy, wet world of humanity, not the written word of the law. In one jail I know of, they’d give you three chances to make a free phone call (the other party has to accept, because they can’t let an abuser call the abusee without some warning of who it is), and if they weren’t busy, you would be able to keep trying for a couple of hours. Another place, you might get the phone call, but it could be 18+ hours after you were brought in and you had already seen the judge, been given a personal recognizance bond, and would be delaying your exit from said jail if you made the call. Jailers sometimes like to put the thumb screws to you in any way they can.
Most of the time, inmates will have access to a phone 24/7. Even in solitary, a phone was available. It looked like a pay phone strapped to a dolly that got wheeled right up to the door of the cell and the phone would stick through the little food slot you could look out of. Those phones require money on their account, and it works in a similar manner to the old collect calls. Those phone calls can be as expensive as a dollar a minute. A law was passed in the US around the end of Obama’s term or the beginning of Trump’s that was supposed to set a limit on how much those calls could cost, but I don’t remember what came of it.
I don’t know what you were doing to end up in enough jails to know that, but I suspect that if there’s additional knowledge here, it’s that we should probably not do whatever that was
At least in Florida, according to this, you are entitled to complete at least one phone call.
It’s too bad that cops are and COs think they are above the law. They WILL steal all your money, they MAY beat you up, and you MAY get a phone call if you behave like you’re their little bitch. They like that.
Was about to send that first link. Glad someone beat me to it.
It is ALWAYS “shut the fuck up” Friday.
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Especially just murdering you. Lot harder to get a corpse to testify that they didn’t do it. Makes it a LOT easier to say “well, they did it, but they’re dead now, case closed.”
Just imagine this is green text.
Nab the wrong guy
Shoot him in the back 53 times while screaming “stop resisting!”
Investigate ourselves, find no wrongdoing
“Case closed, boys!”
…
Police chief gets got by The Adjuster the next day…
Storm troopers murder these kinds of people rather than expose the injustice system.
Making a murderer is all you have to see to know this is the truth. I feel so bad for that family.
Yes! A real eye opener for me!
Never talk to the police, there are many reasons why
Massad Ayoub is the man when it comes to firearms and law. I know of no one more expert.
This is sound advice. There are too many bad actors among cops to trust them to be impartial or fair.
The cops need to present a suspect so they can say they did their job. Whether it’s the right suspect is another matter.
They only care that the forms are filed. They don’t care if they are filed with correct information.
Yep, if something like this can happen, it might not be the best idea to go to the police:
Man pressured to confess he killed his dad. His dad was alive and well [3:40]
Fuck I had to stop watching after the bit with his dog. That’s heartbreaking
Guess who’s going to pay that 900,000. YOU.
Everything went as expected. The officers were promoted.
We did it,
redditNYPD!
I bet they stop releasing info because of the public reaction. At this poiny, they want us to forget and not have copycats. They’re scared.
Wow. Dood. Your reality sounds stressful.
Its like an episode of Law and Order but in real life!
Fair point. I suspect that the NYPD doesn’t really want to bring him in alive.
A dead suspect checks the boxes. Can’t dispute facts with evidence. Allows the media to say they got him. Gives them an easy victory.
The CEOs get a false sense of security and are lured out of hiding. Then the real killer guns down another one. Rinse and repeat.
C’mon man! You should have ended with “Another one bites the dust”.
Then we could all have it playing in our head!
You are correct. I’ve been watching a lot of true crime on YouTube lately and regardless whether someone is guilty or innocent, it seems it is ALWAYS in your best interest to get lawyered up and keep quiet if the cops are interrogating you.
I have mixed feelings about the guilty assholes, because it’s frustrating seeing someone give up their rights and be so open about their crimes but on the other hand, I’m glad they’re so dumb so they can be removed from society and punished.
But it is nothing but frustration seeing innocent people go through that out of genuine sincerity. “I have nothing to hide, so I’ll be open with the cops.” Fucking do not. No matter how low the statistic actually is, there is too much at stake to risk encountering someone who twists your words and uses it against you to frame you so they can close a case.
Lawyer up and shut up. Don’t talk to cops as much as you can help it. Especially don’t volunteer to have your name cleared.
I wouldn’t be surprised if a significant portion of the NYPD cares just as little about finding this guy as the rest of us care about them finding him.
“Yes yes, we take it very seriously. Look, he was wearing a hoodie!”
I mean… The police has to know that elites hate them as much as they hate regular peasants
So they fuck up the right case for once?
The elites don’t hate cops. They are the employers of the cops.
they also employ the pedons but here we are…
The bottom line is that the elites don’t “hate” their armed enforcers… they hire them as disposable.
Cops think they are heroes for being the armed thugs for the elites.
It’s like asking if a mob boss hates their hitmen or their other goons. No, they don’t, but they know they are disposable and loyal.
Clearly five different people.
The first back pack is white. The second one is very dark white almost black. The first jacket has white buttons, the second jacket has dark white buttons almost black. The first jacket has buttons, the second one looks like a special kind of button where the buttons on one side intermesh with the buttons on the otherwise in a zigzag pattern… I bet those have a name like zigzaper or zigper, who knows.
“Very dark white almost black” you mean grey?
Could be green. I’ll ask Pete when he comes out of hiding from under the bed. I assume Prez Trump will be pardoning Pete. When he does pardon Pete, he’s going to everyone’s darling. I can’t talk for all Americans, but definitely, all #1’s will love Trump personally. With enough love, anything is possible. I mean lube. 1 in, 1 out, 1 in again, that little hook at the top of the 1 really does beg for lube…anyway what was the question? I hope I answered correctly.
The first one is a dark brown or green zip up with a built in hood, the second one is a green button up over a hoodie.
They’re barely similar. The NYPD has too much of nothing.
It’s like these:
Smiling guy is a patsy they’ll try to hang for this to help other CEOs sleep peacefully on their second yachts at night after a long day of forcing 5 day a week return to office mandates for overworked employees with “leadership” emails sent remotely from Saint-Tropez.
Weird thing is, neither of these photos has the guy… they already know the man responsible for this and many other deaths, his name was Brian Thompson.
No, I think they match, but if I wound up on his jury, I might start to doubt it.
“Mr Westin, do these two men look similiar to you?”
“No…”
“But I haven’t even shown the second picture yet.”
“Ok, show me…but I’ll still say no.”
“OK, now do these two pictures-”
“Not guilty!”
“Excuse me?”
“Oh , sorry, too soon? I’ll wait.”
Different bag and jacket too? I don’t see how you can match the fact there at all.
Reminder even facial-recognition softwares & Geo-Location data HAVE made errors that put innocent people in jail
I mean with most CCTV feeds facial recognition is just a best guess, you can’t just rely on it.
