Luigi Mangione shouts a message to the American people on his way to court:
“This is completely unjust and an insult to the intelligence of the American people and their lived experience.”
The corporate media is in the manufacturing business…
American police once again showing to us how unfit for the job they are.
The police in the US are there to protect and serve the 1%, AKA the Oligarchs. It’s be wonderful if they actually wanted to serve and provide safety for their communities. I’m sure there are a few in every city that actually want to do the right thing but as a whole, police are basically only around to protect property and harass anyone they think might be a threat to said property, especially when said property is owned by one of the Oligarchs.
'“This is OCP property!”
Almost like the original RoboCop was trying to warn us about something. I had a thought but got distracted and can’t remember what it was.
Oh well, I’ll buy that for a dollar!
Mm 3,
I think the issue here is what you think the job is, not the other way around.
Maybe the (mostly) professionalism from other countries has poisoned my mind and the police should indeed treat everyone as vermin.
Whether they treat you professionally or not is irrelevant to the fact that their primary mission is upholding the state.
They are there to enforce the law and serve citizens. They are public servants. But in the US they are mostly there to protect the state and uphold their own ideals, yes.
However I was pointing out the lack of proper training, they immediately rush to get physical and grab the suspect by the neck as soon as they get a chance.
But in the US they are mostly there to protect the state and uphold their own ideals, yes.
Why do you think this is exclusive of the US?
I don’t, but the US is the topic of discussion here
You’re literally the one who brought up the comparison to other countries, buddy.
I’m unsure if he means his arrest is unjust due to the order of magnitude worse injustice of the healthcare system or Luigi stating he’s not the culprit (vigilante, hero, The Adjuster - whatever noun floats your boat).
It seems like the former? Annoyingly unclear.
He’s claiming the police planted evidence on him as a attempt to justify denying bail. Specifically he says they planted a large amount of cash that he didn’t have on him ever and has no idea where it came from, and they lied about a waterproof bag he had for his phone, saying it was a faraday cage, and claiming his possession of such an item means he’s too sophisticated a criminal to be allowed bail.
He knows what’s coming. They aren’t gonna want him to get to speak to a jury because it’s not gonna be a guarantee they convict him. If he gets a not guilty verdict, that would be VERY bad for the ruling class, so that’s not gonna be allowed to possibly happen.
Yeah, I’m already extremely suspicious at the convenience of his arrest, given that there has to be a repercussion shown to the ‘plebs’ - can’t have them getting ideas now about the ease with which they could depose their ruling oligarchs and actually get away with it.
I didn’t know about those details regarding the evidence being planted, so his statement makes much more sense with that context, thank you.
I was suspicious the instant they called out the 3D printed “ghost gun”. While certainly possible, it was waaay too convenient an excuse given how that may have swung some opinions about gun safety and control. Now they’re rushing this.
Keep an eye out for thinly veiled attempts at obfuscation.
Whatever happened to it being a Welrod?
Goddess these news outlets don’t know shit when they publish shit.
The “3D printed gun” trope was taken back I think. They now claim that he only 3D printed the silencer. Some gun lobbyist probably donated a wad of cash.
That wasn’t a 3D printed silencer in the video.
If it was, that material is way stronger than anything I’ve worked with.
Nowadays, you can print guns out of basic PLA. At least in .22 caliber, I don’t know about anything larger, though I do know 3d printed Glock frames are definitely a thing. A 3d printed suppressor is definitely feasible, as I’ve seen at least 1 design for PETG.
Now, as to whether or not that’s what can be seen in the video? Who knows. I certainly can’t tell.
So I’m not into firearms. Guns aren’t reaaally my thing. However, I imagine with quality material you need a larger silencer for a larger caliber, or a modified design to rapidly reduce pressure. It stands to reason then that with a design less capable of withstanding that pressure, you must then compensate with a larger design even at lower calibers. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, though this then stands to reason that even a .22 would need a much larger design, or a modified design which would by nature increase noise via gas release.
That said, a silencer doesn’t silence, it reduces. If he was as prepared as we think he was, he’d know that.
They now claim that he only 3D printed the silencer.
It’s shit like this that reminds me how stupid cops are…
You can’t “3d print a silencer” it would just explode from the pressure.
I still remember when they tried to claim a plastic bag seen on footage of Rittenhouse was a “makeshift molotov cocktail”
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A Molotov Cocktail is already a makeshift weapon, that’s the point, the poor will always have access to alcohol and fire so it’s the one weapon the state cannot take from you.
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A plastic bag would make for a terrible molotov considering it can’t be thrown far and would just burn up in your hands if you tried.
A plastic bag would make for a terrible molotov considering
Gasoline melts plastic and would eat thru the bag…
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To be fair, I’m not sure if “just arrest anyone convenient and frame them”, is entirely in the wealthy’s interest here. Making an example is one thing, sure, but if you do that and dont get the guy that actually did it, then you have a guy out there who has proven themselves willing to go out and assassinate CEOs, who may well decide to do it again. If you do have the means to catch that guy, then what motivation is there to not just send him through the court system rather than framing someone else? Less risk of a frame up being discovered and sparking even more resentment if you have at least some genuine evidence, after all.
Could be both. They may know he is the guy, but they might not be able to say how they know it and by what means (extreme surveillance…) so they just frame him.
The cops leaked/released a picture of him in jail after he peed his pants, likely from being teased or something.
And multiple of him in the suicide prevention room, which notoriously doesn’t prevent suicides, and is complete 24/7 isolation with only a weird smock.
It’s not to prevent suicide, it’s torture. So he’s likely screaming about how he’s actively being tortured.
He’s rich tho, his lawyer will likely get him bail.
It’s like insane this is the standard and no politician ever wants to address our system.
He’s rich tho, his lawyer will likely get him bail.
His grandparents are wealthy. His parents may be rich but might not be wealthy (they may or may not be, we only know about the grandfather’s extensive holdings and the expensive schooling).
It may sound like bullshit to people stressed about making rent, but middle aged people worth a few million aren’t wealthy. Like if you’re super lucky you can work for 20-30 years and own a house in or near a major city and have a enough of a retirement or pension to quit working when you’re old and have a reasonable lifestyle. I’m in a mid tier city and even here paying off your house or condo means you’re worth at least 500k. That isn’t “buy a politician” money. That isn’t “live in any country I want because I’m rich enough that everyone gives me citizenship” money. That isn’t “immune from health insurance fuckery” money. That isn’t “get away with murder“ money.
Anyway. A wealthy grandfather may be willing to help out with or pay for schooling. But it’s a coin flip on whether he’s gonna shell out hundreds of thousands or millions for a legal defense (and if he did, would he pull funding if the defense wasn’t to his liking?). From the granddad’s perspective, the kid is a class traitor.
I mean shit, GoFundMe is trying to stamp it out right and left, but there was donations for Kyle Rittenhouse…
Luigi is going to get a shit ton of money for legal fees, from pretty much every demographics. His generational wealth and connections mean he’s not going to get some ambulance chaser, he’s going to get an established law firm that will tear the state to shreds.
Honestly, this might be what finally pits the 1% against the 0.01%…
They’re not used to their own being mistreated, and (most likely correctly) assume if they unit with the other 98.9% of the country the wealthiest don’t have a chance.
When people like this are bucking the system, it’s not a good sign
Just because his grandfather was wealthy doesn’t mean that he is. Not destitute like so many, sure, but that’s not the same as being the 1%. I think I read that Luigi is one of like 37 grandchildren. That’s spreading things pretty thin.
I don’t have sources on me. But I’m fairly certain that in the French Revolution you had upper class supporters of the revolution, and maybe even some nobility. Most of the revolutions did, and they provided support to the revolution usually through some supply chain they had access to.
That being said, I could be entirely making it up, because that would have been more than a decade ago I learned it.
Well, I was sort of hoping for a happier ending than that, but they didn’t call it the reign of terror for not beheading 16,000 people.
I hope you’re right, but I’m just not as hopeful anymore.
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Cough it out into a tissue, you’ll feel much better afterward.
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Direct video clip https://imgur.com/mJbwzpQ
them thicc piggies all got the same haircut that’s adorbs
He definitely says “completely out of touch” (in an italian accent) and I think the fact that he’s saying that to a camera means he’s targeting the CEO-favored news coverage. I’m surprised not more people are picking up on that possibility.
So they did arrest the wrong man. How long before they “sucide” him?
In his mugshot they put him in a vest reserved for people who are a suicide risk. He is definitely going to get Epsteined
a vest reserved for people who are a suicide risk
I haven’t seen the picture but… Straightjacket?
Not a straightjacket. More like a shitty shirt made from fabric you can’t tear to strangle yourself with. The real problem could be the conditions of suicide watch. Those can be torture and drive you insane, depending on the place.
Just saw the pic, they fucking turtled him?!
Someone called it like a turtle suit. Cuz it’s so cold in prison with it you have to curl up like a turtle to stay warm. Which is terrible because he has huge back issues.
No, it’s got like velcro on the shoulders or something from the look of it. I guess the idea is you can’t strangle yourself with it? I don’t know.
Why would they do that? What would be the point of killing an (presumably) innocent man if the killer is still on the loose?
Case closed, no loose ends
If the killer is still on the loose, the case is not closed and there is literally still a loose end.
They asked why they would kill a patsy. In theory it’s just to placate the public and reduce likelihood of copycats.
But if the killer kills again, the case is not closed and it is a loose end.
It is only closed if this was a one and done.
The ‘killer’ died in prison, therefore and new incident must be a copycat by someone who happens to look a lot like him. That’s a brand new case. /s
No that’s just a “copycat” who should be shamed for wanting to be like the “Evil” Luigi
To send a message and to look like they solved the crime. They feel confident the real killer will stay hidden or has left the country.
He killed for most likely ideological reasons, just cause he got away doesnt mean he is gonna stay away. Hell with these actions id say its entirely possible he may target someone sooner.
I hope he does get a few more, to also send a message.
Part of me hopes this happens before EOY, because I think it’ll really strike some fear into CEOs.
But, one can dream
Buddy if you think the system is about “justice” I’ve go some news for you
This is America. We build whole industries (the insurance industry) around killing people for profit.
Won’t someone think of the GDP?!?
Who cares about GDP? The company board are the real victims here! Their profits are not minmaxed enough!
The Adjustor had 1 target (so far as can be told) and it took almost a WEEK to “catch him”, which took a tip in to police to manage
It wouldn’t be too out of the question to assume he won’t strike again and that any random fall guy is safe from a repeat attack blowing their plan to shit
When police think they have right suspect they often do everything they can to prove that person did it. Essentially, once they have their targets set on a suspect, they shift from trying to figure out who may have done it to putting all their resources into finding evidence against the suspect and building the strongest case they can against them. This includes ignoring evidence that is counter to their theory and discontinuing investigation of other leads.
Their goal at that point is to convict. Because, to them, getting a conviction is success and the person going free is failure. Alternately, getting the person to “commit suicide” is success because they can claim that they were guilty and no trial is necessary.
It’s all about winning and getting a conviction because conviction=justice=case closed. And that means the public can rest soundly knowing “justice” has been served. Especially after PR has done their work.
Prosecutors are the same. They treat their job as finding anything and everything to get the conviction. Exculpatory evidence is ignored and buried. If “evidence” is planted/manufactured, they do their best to ignore and hide that fact and make said evidence look real. It’s the defense’s job to prove innocence. In theory, the police should be working to find and provide evidence for both sides, but the police and Prosecutors anre working toward the same goal, leaving the defense severely hindered.
This is the system that railroads people into conviction. They use the media to amplify their story and make it look like they are infallible. When information comes out that counters the police/prosecutor story, they circle the wagons to protect each other and discredit the information that contradicts them. Because they think that they are the good guys and even if they got something wrong, their original hunch must have been right.
This guy understands what Phoenix Wright is REALLY about.
OBJECTION!
The wealthy elite want an illusion of consequences for attacking them more than they need actual justice. They didn’t want the plebs thinking they can get away with attacking them, or else more will happen.
Simple, they want the public to believe that if they follow in the killers footsteps, they will be caught and go through hell in order to dissuade other people who might do the same. There are obviously a lot of people who applaud his actions, so to try to prevent them from getting the idea that they can do this too, they make a show of force to make them think twice.
In the end it doesn’t matter if Luigi did it or not. As long as people are scared of the pinishment, they will hesitate to imitate.
Not true justice, but they never really cared about that to begin with.
They don’t want him in front of a jury.
Regardless if it’s him or not. They cannot afford him to get acquitted.
But they can’t martyr him. That will be a death sentence to the US.
This isn’t going to end well for anyone. This guy has shown a much darker picture of the US to us that we all know too well.
Imho, as painful as it is, avoiding an economic civil war at this point does more harm than good over time. It kicks the can down the road until their side exclusively can use humanoid robots to fight their battles for them, and that just means get in line and die until collapse.
The alternative is even darker, our non-wealthy children being judged by AI as to whether the potential profit/loss of healing them is greater or less than their remaining projected exploitation value to the owners.
And that’s just in Healthcare. Our entire economy has become this sociopathic.
This is silent slaughter. No one should confuse quiet with peace. We haven’t had peace for a long time.
They don’t care if only the top 5% is free on the backs of the 95%, they don’t see the bottom 95% as human at all. I don’t think society should continue under that bargain. It isn’t worth it. No one is free until everyone is.
This is silent slaughter. No one should confuse quiet with peace. We haven’t had peace for a long time.
“True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of justice.” – MLK Jr.
Reminder that MLK was silenced because he was getting further into advocating economic equity, a bridge too far.
I think the FBI killed him. It’s an objective matter of historical record they tried to blackmail him into committing suicide.
This is the same reason the Black Panthers messages have faded into obscurity.
His family proved in court that the government killed him, but every judge in criminal courts refused to let the case go to trial, so it was only a civil court case. But the judge was convinced by the evidence and found the government guilty and dues were awarded.
God damn that was a little too much to read just before bed.
That’s enough internet for one day, soldier.
Sweet dreams.
Remember remember the 4th of December.
Our entire economy has become this sociopathic.
I don’t think that it has recently become sociopathic. It was certainly much worse in the past with the genocide of the Americas and slavery of Africans. I would argue that the ethics of the economy have improved, but the general public has become increasingly aware of how unjust it is.
. I would argue that the ethics of the economy have improved,
The Reagan era was a glorification of greed. Before then, CEOs were expected to care about all the stakeholders of a company. Not just stockholders but also customers and employees and the general community. A large amount of enshitification resulted from the glorification of greed era. For example, tuition at public universities went from very reasonable to absurdly expensive. Health care deductibles went from $250 to $6000. Anti-trust law stopped being enforced etc.
There’s nothing inherently wrong with some level of selfish individuality but coupled with a capitalist organizations goal of ever increasing profit at the direct expense and exploitation of others and the environment, that’s practically textbook sociopathy.
Our economy was most fair when Unions had some power. From the 50s to the 70s, there was a corrupt equilibrium when Conservatives were bribed by business and liberals were bribed by unions, until they were convinced to take the larger corporate bribe checks and joined the owner movement to undermine unions. Today’s neoliberals. That is when, at least on economic policy, we effectively lost our vote. Then we lost our protest with designated protest zones out of the eyelines and profit operations of those being protested, which is effectively masturbation.
I think it’s inevitable when you don’t inflict close to 100% enforced taxation above ludicrous levels of wealth accumulation. Because wealth at a certain level beyond material desires becomes power. Society warping levels of power, power to warp public opinion through media and captured education, power to neuter your own regulators through bribed politicians passing legislation written by the owners themselves(see ALEC), and no one should have such unelected power.
No one.
Part of the reason we know it’s gotten this bad, closer to a return to the 1920s with child labor on the rise, is because there were some less unfair decades, and it’s no surprise those decades came in the wake of the owner class created great depression.
Now people watch wealthy people like the Kardashians as role models, when they should spit onto the street in disgust when such people walk by. Greed hurts people. Greed is a blight, a personal failing we’ve been propagandized to nurture.
If you can’t be happy only making enough for 2 big houses and 1 regular yacht and to indulge your hobbies for the century give or take you’ll be alive, you’re broken inside, and need mental healthcare, not enablers for your God complex.
General strike, crash the fake economy built on systemic fraud.
They’ll drag him and dope him to the gills.
Yeah, I have a sneaking suspicion that hes going to commit suicide via 2 gunshots to the back of the head, with every security camera in the facility malfunctioning during it and that every other inmate in the vicinity was coincidentally unconscious.
The Boeing special?
You left off, got the bars off his 4th story cell and fell to his death. Or I guess it could be 12th story with the new prison they wanna build in NY China Town.
the thing is, I think they can afford for him to be acquitted on the murder charges. the way the evidence was presented, he had a ghost gun and an illegal suppressor as well. whether they were planted or not is still up for debate, but that’s a slam dunk case that they can just give the maximum sentence for and move on. I don’t think the murder charges actually matter. I imagine if they can’t get him on murder we’ll quickly find out he was manufacturing drugs or some of bs charge they can give hime another 20 year sentence for and if the judge rules they can’t be served concurrently then bam, still a life sentence
Dude’s gonna get epsteined
Difference is that Epstein got whacked and his /clients/ let it happen.
Luigi has real fans, who see what he did as a reflection of their own discontent.
If something happens to him in jail, I believe that would still count as the aforementioned martyrdom.
Yup. Epstein getting killed was inevitable, but it’s not like he had many fans; child molesters don’t tend to win popularity contests (unless it’s running for the highest seat in the country…) His death had people upset, but only because it meant he wouldn’t be able to testify against all the billionaires. He was only working against the billionaires because the prosecutors were forcing him to do so.
But Luigi is a symbol of someone actively working against the billionaires, and killing him will turn him into a martyr.
He’ll get a jury trial after about 2 years of waiting, locked in a cage
Apparently prosecutor in NY has 6m
6m ?
Months
It’s the parent company of 3m, they make quantum-cluster-adhesives.
haaaaannnn
6 meters
Yeah idk, maybe something like a 6ft rope? Something related to a hangman’s rope for execution?
it’s gotta be 6 meters of law then
6mese nutz, lmao gottem.
I am not following
Just think of it like up dog
Similar to up dog but exactly like henway.
My dream scenario is a mob marches on the capital cities ready to kill the 1% and Trump pardons Luigi and throws the rest of the wealthy to the mob to save his own ass. I believe Trump would do just about anything to save himself.
Edit: Updated my silly hypothetical to better explain the idea. I obviously don’t think it’s realistic, but it would be amusing. Esp if it failed to sate the publics rage!
Trump can already pardon himself. Even if he couldn’t, making enemies of the rich wouldn’t help himself, in fact it’d just do the opposite. The ultrawealthy have class solidarity, so Trump was never in actual trouble. They only face consequences if not doing so would majorly harm the collective image of the rich (e.g. this is why Jeffrey Epstein had to die).
That won’t line his pockets, so no, he won’t be doing that.
Where does the wealth go if his competitors are dead? Dude owns casions and hotels. If he offs the competition, that makes him a lot of $
He no longer owns any casinos. Those went bust. Most hotels aren’t even his, he just leased his name out. Killing a CEO doesn’t put the competing company out of business, either.
It does if you’re sending them a message they can’t ignore
No. It doesn’t. They already replaced the dead one. You think there aren’t more greedy shits who will roll those dice? Or shareholders who will remain unaffected by the killings?
Much darker? Shit. Things seeming pretty dark in US already.
Dark? This is the brightest it’s been since before 9/11.
Never challenge worse.
“Altoona pizza is gross and weird!”
To*
He shouted to the media. Dumb editor.
Free Luigi
#freeluigi
1up
law enforcement, the media, and every other avenue that was once impartial enough to havea shot at fair treatment from them have all been bought by the very fatcats that are crying the loudest
Well … um … you reported that he shouted in your headline but didn’t see the irony in what he was saying as you reported it. Nice job, Newsweek for supporting his statement through your actions.
Media will now work hard to turn him from hero to zero.
They gotta protect those sponsor dollarsp
The US is disgusting. I hate this country so much.
They are going to crucify this guy.
Time to build some guillotines.
The class war is here, if you are not fighting you are bending over
What is the the punishment when a Duke’s son kills a Baron?
People coming from privilege can still be progressive and want to enact change. I’m not sure why you’re denigrating this man and his actions based solely on the circumstances of his birth.
“And yes, I recognize the irony that the very system I oppose affords me the luxury of biting the hand that feeds. But that’s exactly why priviledged fucks like me should feel obliged to whine and kick and scream - until everyone has everything they need.” - Propagandhi, “Resisting Tyrannical Government”
Ironically, they’re the ones with the most time and education to figure out the truth. Then their own (wealthy) family will turn on them when they try for change.
When it comes to class struggle, the best education is lived experience.
If that was true, the american working class would be more class aware.
Good point. Although in my experience rich people with good education are generally very bad representatives for the working class. The people I’ve met that do the best work regarding unionisation and organising are people who learned about class struggle through personal experience.
Mangione’s grandparents may be rich, but they’re nowhere near the level of a national company CEO rich. So you’ve got it backwards; this is like a Baron’s grandson killing a Duke.
No tea for a week?
Jihad.
(I don’t think enough people understood your comment, well done)
And then the golden path
