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Meta announced a series of major updates to its content moderation policies today, including ending its fact-checking partnerships and “getting rid” of restrictions on speech about “topics like immigration, gender identity and gender” that the company describes as frequent subjects of political discourse and debate. “It’s not right that things can be said on TV or the floor of Congress, but not on our platforms,” Meta’s newly appointed chief global affairs officer, Joel Kaplan, wrote in a blog post outlining the changes.
In an accompanying video, Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg described the company’s current rules in these areas as “just out of touch with mainstream discourse.”
In tandem with this announcement, the company made a number of updates across its Community Guidelines, an extensive set of rules that outline what kinds of content are prohibited on Meta’s platforms, including Instagram, Threads, and Facebook. Some of the most striking changes were made to Meta’s “Hateful Conduct” policy, which covers discussions on immigration and gender.
In a notable shift, the company now says it allows “allegations of mental illness or abnormality when based on gender or sexual orientation, given political and religious discourse about transgenderism and homosexuality and common non-serious usage of words like ‘weird.’”
In other words, Meta now appears to permit users to accuse transgender or gay people of being mentally ill because of their gender expression and sexual orientation. The company did not respond to requests for clarification on the policy.
Seems like Meta has a collective mental illness
I stopped letting Meta take my attention once they started making my feed fill itself with “reccomended” “you might like” pages and profiles that I at no point ever clicked on or searched for.
before, my feed was exclusively my friends content, and pages I followed.
now, they fill the gaps with evangelicals, gambling, and idiots posting chinese and russian war propaganda.
yup, get the fuck out. im done.
Oh it’s a complete ghost town. Absolutely useless as actual social media. I suppose you could try starring/favoriting all your friends lol…
My entire feed is just nonsense now. Last year a guy I knew from my Warcraft days had cancer while a relative in Canada had a baby.
They both posted these things on Facebook.
What Facebook showed me was constant spam, so now I just see chess puzzle channels from India, street cooking videos from places with no hygiene laws, magic eye pictures and retro games. I’ve never asked it for any of these things, yet some algorithm detected I paused for a millisecond while scrolling past them so now that’s all I get. Fuck the people I know, right?
It used to be useful for exactly one thing and it can’t even do that any more. The only way you can actually see a proper feed without spam is to go into a person/group’s profile directly.
I decided I was going to discontinue using Meta products except to put out an occasional Instagram photo, pushed to Facebook, to tell…people I don’t even talk to anymore, and for good reason…that I was alive and a sight of what I was doing. I discontinued my old Facebook profile and made a new one only for this purpose.
Because Facebook kind of sees me as a new user, I’m able to see content I wasn’t able to before. And fuck, that place feels like some weird scam and bot flea market.
I hope it’s soon to die but who knows if it’ll transform into some unmasked arm of the government for surveillance.
I use the website / app for exactly one purpose, marketplace. buy and sell shit.
I still have messenger for work purposes, as well as some family and friends. but the “Feed”. the status updates, Fuck no. burn it all.
And you can’t even browse marketplace on the mobile site. It wants you to install their app.
And you get ads for anything you look up on Marketplace.
They already allowed it on Facebook, they just pretended they didn’t while that kind of speech thrived on Facebook.
You can now refer to women as property on Facebook and they are A-OK with that! But you will, and it has happened to me, catch an instant ban if you say all men are trash.
Maybe it’s just me but I don’t think people should be saying or be allowed to say either of those two things. Neither of those two things are good for anyone.
I suppose that was ops point
In the context I said it myself it was because of Trump the rapist. I am very tired of women being raped and everything that comes with conservatives normalizing it.
I think people should be able to say whatever bs they want to, but their identity should be attached to it.
15 years in the making to unban “fake and gay”
So because one major party is spouting racist garbage that means Facebook needs to follow?
Who the fuck still uses Facebook?
It’s easy to say this when you’re from a younger generation who uses more savvy platforms, but some people never got social media literate past Facebook. To them it’s just somewhere they log in to sometimes to see pictures of their new nephew in British Columbia or to sell an old bike on marketplace, or other really casual use. Maybe they look through their news feed sometimes and laugh at a meme or whatever. They really have no concept of what they are going to be fed and what fake news is even. They’re not ignorant, they just live most of their life away from a screen. And they’re not all older people. I have plenty of friends from church younger than me who have a Facebook that they update maybe once a year with a picture of their kids on Halloween and that’s it, they never do anything else with it. Some people genuinely have no concept of all the evil that’s being wrought on these platforms.
I need to, because family refuses to use anything else for chat. Or at least with me, as my younger brother likely is an unironic nazi.
A fuck of a lot of people and that’s a worry.
Isn’t greed a mental illness too? Besides it’s one of the seven deadly sins. So much for those christian-wannabes.
A large segment of evangelicals have turned to a fatalistic theology where they are eternally elect and saved, and God hates everyone else. Therefore, they can do to “everyone else” whatever evil they want, because God predetermined it. Definitely not a new belief system, but it is a very self-serving one for their leaders who are angling for political power.
I hate fuckerberg but there’s a possibility he’s playing 3d chess this time.
The amount of backlash and outrage that letting all the bullshit through because politicians are spewing it and being cheered might cause the politicians doing it to have to change. Generally no one wants the new policy.
They clamor for “free speech” but once they see how it devolves the public sentiment will say “OH GOD WE TAKE IT BACK”
That is an extremely remote, one might say infinitesimally small, possibility. Incredibly far more likely is that he’s plugged in politically and the ruling class wants to shift public debate even more fascist using automated control of public discourse.
It seems clear as day to me that all tech companies and leadership are kissing the ring right now to keep profits flowing and avoid being targeted or to collude with schemes to increase profits in the future, so like you’re saying that’s the most likely rationale. This could very easily be part of whatever scheme was negotiated verbally.
Elon Musk is gay
Don’t insult us by association
He said he’s gay, not that he’s a shark fucker. Unless you’re a gay shark fucker? 🤔
Let’s be honest, they already allow rampant, dangerous misinformation, bullying, and hate speech. They’re just being a little more honest about it, now.
Don’t forget that they will actively defend hate speech and overly police the opposite because their moderators aren’t moderated. They have literal priests dictating what is considered misoginy and homophobia ffs (True story).
The mask has slipped because they know they can get away with it.
After all,this isn’t anything forced on Meta, they are taking advantage of the incoming president being all for this and binning policies they clearly only follower reluctantly (and poorly).
I don’t think it’s a mask, I think they’re signaling and competing for favor. The timing is obvious.
I still think this whole idea that we were going to get big tech (or anyone really), as owners of the modern mediums of communication, to act as the arbiters of truth and harmful messages was always a ridiculous notion. It’s both not in their interests and not in their power.
The mainstream of the liberals and the left seem to have become so obsessed with policing speech that they’ve nearly completely given up on meaningfully improving the material conditions of people’s lives. You win the narrative by delivering real results that people can see and feel, not by trying to ban charlatans from spinning bullshit.
Change the world, and the narrative will follow. Not the other way around.
The charlatans spinning bullshit for over 70 years is the reason we have never had anyone from “the left” in a position of power to make any meaningful change.
I really don’t think so. If the process was so simple as writing false or hurtful things, and then your political opponents are blocked from power, then why doesn’t the left just become a bunch of shitposters and kick all the fascists out?
I think a more plausible explanation for why the left has been excluded from power is simply that American politics runs on donor money, capitalists have lots of money, and they have a class interest in excluding the left. You can certainly get deeper than that, but that’s sort of the heart of the issue.
Note here that Zuck and Meta are capitalists, and were never going censor the narrative contrary to their interests.
If words didn’t have power and it was all about “meaningfully improving lives” then the right wouldn’t be fighting so hard in defense of hate speech and the ability to persecute marginalized groups with their language and writing.
I think it’s more about being able to play as the oppressed, and whip up their base. There have been many platforms where they could post their hate. Censoring speech just fuels outrage and invites the Streisand effect.
But in this case I don’t think Zuck really cares about enabling these right-wing messages. It’s about saving money by cutting a bunch of expensive fact checkers, and displaying friendliness toward the new president; either because they don’t want to be singled out for punishment, or they hope to be rewarded with some largess.
It’s not about money spent on fact checkers you’re just speculating with no basis, it’s about getting with the program with Musk and Trump. Simple as that. Because that is how he’ll make money. Did you even read the article? He made a concrete statement about “protecting free speech” and that he agreed with Trump. It’s right there.
Anyway all of this is completely different from your initial comment. You trivialized the power of words when the fact is the weight they can carry is enormous. Again as evidenced by how much screeching we hear on the right about this.
It’s not even about free speech, it’s about people not wanting social repercussions for their words.
Soon the Metaverse will resemble a classic CoD lobby.
Does the metaverse even exist? Like is it a thing people use?
This video is from last year and I doubt anything’s changed. It’s pretty funny if you haven’t seen it
I really like this video too
I’m just happy to see the old internet make a come back.
I’d rather be called the n-word by someone claiming to be having sexual relations with my mother.
Because I’m tired of hearing about how “PDF-files” went and “game-ended themselves”, because they had “corn” on their phones.
I prefer cesspools to a society so impossibly polite that it can only be a cover for a dystopia.
Yup. It’s insane that Demolition Man is becoming a non-fiction work.
Kinda saw it coming ten years ago when I realized that Demolition Man’s world was one where the mainstream was tumblr, and the counter culture forced to live in squalor for refusing to play along was 4Chan.
Heck Doug Walker had the same observation in his Nostalgia Critic review of the movie…
When you finish reading this comment, you will forget you were ever gay.
…b-but I was never Gay!
If you say so
Exactly
They already did not enforce the rules related to that…
They don’t enforce rules at all
They enforce anti-bullying, and by that I mean calling bigots bigots is considered as bullying by Facebook.