Summary
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau denounced Trump’s sudden 25% tariffs, warning they threaten American jobs and will inflate consumer costs.
He revealed that Trump refuses to take his calls and sharply criticized claims linking tariffs to illegal immigration and fentanyl crossing U.S. borders.
In retaliation, Canada and Mexico imposed matching tariffs, targeting crucial American exports like auto parts, agriculture, and red-state staples like famous Kentucky bourbon.
Trudeau warned American factories may shut, citing integrated supply chains.
If Canada just stopped selling aluminum and steel to the US, it would heavily affect aerospace and military manufacturing.
Potash and Canada exports a lot to the USA. This would affect the US agricultural sector.
Crank up the prices of 25-50% Potash too, its too short supply to get a different supplier and if they don’t use it the crops will fail. The US has worked our relationship carefully for decades to get some huge trade advantages from Canada, and Trump just blew it all up.
USA has already lost more than they can ever gain.
Automotive too
Yeah during Trudeau’s speech the only thing I was thinking when he was listing all of Canada’s resources is, “are you trying to encourage a US invasion?!”
NATO country invading a NATO country? 🤔
Does Article 5 still work?
Please! We’re in dire need of consequences.
If you are a Canadian or Mexican please contact your representatives and have them do a more targeted tariff plan. Target American red states directly! Oil tariffs should be universal but anything made in red states and counties should have a 100% tariff. Force industry and goods to flow through blue areas and Trump’s support will crumble.
This assumes the people in the red States would see the chain of causation, which is unlikely.
It will create an enemy out of the taxing countries. I dont have a better idea but at this point his base will never turn from him.
The idea is this will force red state senators to do something. It worked during the Bush administration, anyways.
The number one predictor of electoral outcomes is people’s feelings on the economy.
Trump’s base is a lost cause, but the pain may get the soft Dem voters to get off their arses and turn out for the next election.
Nothing will shift Maga, so appealing to them is wasted.
I agree there is a large subset of MAGA that are lost causes, however, I’ve seen a couple people around me change their minds on Trump: One was over the H1B (fear of job loss) and the other was over these recent tariffs (fear of paying more). Had to cause issues that could have direct impacts to them personally to change their minds, but there you have it.
Republicans only care when it affects then directly.
Exactly. So target then directly. Targeting blue voters will just push them right.
Justin Trudeau tried to speak to the American people and did play heavy on the lasting friendship between the two countries. Will that dull the backlash against Canada? Trump wants an enemy out of Mexico, Canada, and China.
There’s a personal enmity between Trudeau and Trump. Trudeau shot his mouth off a lot the last 8 years, and really ramped it up the last 4, never thought Trump would be back, and then went on the news crying about Trump winning wasn’t fair, after making an ill advised trip to Mar a Largo instead of sending his foreign affairs minister, or anyone else that Trump didn’t literally hate. Trump, he’s talked a lot of shit about Trudeau being a two faced weasel and other (also not untrue) comments about his intelligence. If anyone is gonna fix it, it’s Trudeau’s replacement, coming fairly soon, or possibly the guy after that, federal election by early summer, late spring most likely. Trudeau’s desperate need to hold on ten years into power when literally everyone was telling him to get the fuck out is really hampering us right now.
… what? No lol.
you need to pay atention
I have been. You should try it sometime.
Trump hasn’t liked Trudeau since he won Trump’s stupid little handshake game.
yeah ok. anyone want to seriously discuss politics?
I’m not sure how you’re going to talk politics without personality, and this is both indicative and typical of his personality.
Trump wants an enemy out of Mexico, Canada, and China.
Which is hilarious because one of those things is not like the other
According to this (see first 2 minutes), they are specifically trying to target red states in hopes of getting republicans to try and intervene with trump.
T came out of the gate, clearly rewarding loyalty and smashing dissent. No red state is going to budge. It’s like T watched a CPG Grey on Monarchy.
And even if they did and tried, he’s not listening to anyone but his handlers.
Even 38.3% of Californian voters voted for Trump. The Trump party only has a 9 set majority in the house, and California has 9 of them, all of which are up for reelection in 18 months. Targeting individual states probably isn’t that helpful.
The Republican party isn’t acting like they’re worried about having to compete in fair elections again. It’s also looking like the administration doesn’t need congress or the courts, and can do whatever they want.
Yep and lot of them are from the agricultural counties that abuse illegal labor and need water for their crops and livestock. I was laughing, I know I shouldn’t, when the Orange Fucktard released the water. for nothing.
It absolutely will. Red state leadership only cares about one thing. Money. The moment you start targeting their bank accounts. They’ll flip on Trump. Spreading the tariffs across all voting bases is dumb. Yes 38.3% voted for Trump, but that’s nowhere near as much as the other 61.7% that actually want a better future for all! Red states are already struggling. Push them to the breaking point first to see how they react. Hurting working class blue voters will only push them right.
California has over 6 million Trump voters, why avoid them?
Because of the electoral college…
As the other posters have pointed out, we’re already on it. Which, no offence, is a symptom of why we don’t want to be part of the US - our government actually works.
I looked over the official list, and it’s stupid detailed. Like, a couple of goods mentioned are papers for wrapping cigars and fitted cases for church bells.
Who would risk investing millions into a factory when you have no idea when your materials could be randomly taxed/tariffed. Was literally working on factory plans in Troy, MI when this put a permanent hold on it. Relying on Quebec aluminum like many others. No sense continuing if we have to use Chinese aluminum, just expand the China facility instead.
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Christ- mexico was becoming a good ally for manufacturing.
Lot of engineering is being shipped off to China since big companies like localization to prevent tariffs. Mexico was helping to soothe that.
We’re so fucked lol
I work in automation in SEMI. My idiot conservative boss is convinced that this will help us by bringing manufacturing from Mexico.
Does he not know about the Mexico Tariffs? Is he planning to just become Mexican when the USA goes to shit?
He thinks it will make manufacturers come to MI because they won’t want to pay tariffs.
I was wrong with my numbers earlier, made an edit.
Minimum wage in MI is $10.25 USD PER HOUR, and the Mexico minimum wage PER DAY is supposedly $248.93 PESO equal to about 12 USD and potentially rising, so your boss
might have a point if the US workforce doesn’t just leave the country themselves.is wrong, the manufacturing is staying in Mexico.EDIT: Mexico minimum is per day not hour.
I had to look that up, because it didn’t sound right. Turns out it’s 248.93 pesos per day, not per hour
Ah shit you’re right, mb. Yeah, Manufacturing is staying in Mexico.
Mexican tariffs have already been delayed and or cancelled.
I really believe Trump is refusing calls from Trudeau like its a power move in a high stakes negotiations. Instead its an idiot, Trump, doing something dumb and an actual intelligent adult is trying to tell him how dumb he is and he won’t listen.
His voters like him because he is like them.
Or he is doing what his Russian master (Putin) wants…
Yeah, I don’t understand how people are confused about this. We KNOW from his last term that the Russians have kompromat on MANY Republicans, or just outright own them. Did everyone forget all the Republican senators flying to Russia together to meet with Putin?
If you view Trump and Co.'s actions from Putin’s POV, it makes a lot of sense.
And the flew there on the 4th of July 🫡🇺🇸
Putin planned it on the 4th to wave his dick in their faces even harder.
Do you believe the same thing of the Biden administration’s refusal to talk to Putin’s office?
Ah yes, who can forget the longstanding free-trade agreement with America’s favourite, peaceful neighbour, Russia. Both sides are totally the same.
It’s a simple question. Are you gonna answer it or not?
The answer is implied. No, I don’t believe the same thing, because they are explicitly different situations.
Refusing to communicate with someone is valid when you have valid reasons.
Refusing to take a phone call from a guy actively engaging in a violent robbery is valid for a number of reasons.
Flinging bags of shit into your neighbour’s yard, then refusing to talk to your neighbour’s when they say “this isn’t helping either of us live well; I don’t want to throw this shit back at you, but I will until you stop” is not valid, it is the inaction of a petty imbecile that can’t justify their actions.
Does that answer your question?
So you think it was not childish at all to refuse to communicate with Russia? That blows my mind.
What? No. I literally just explained that. No, it’s not childish to refuse to take a bad faith call from a dictator to either legitimize their rule or engage in a conflict that would drag the world into a 3rd world war.
Whether you agree or disagree with whether that is the correct political move is certainly up for debate. But to claim it is childish is itself naive.
You made an analogy with talking to a robber
He’s acting like his allies are enemies and not countries you want to cooperate with for the common good.
The US’s allies ARE his enemies, because his allies are our enemies.
Our allies are sensible and question his stupidity. Our enemies are also sensible and so they applaud his stupidity, because they’re our enemies.
When everything in the world is zero sum, there is no cooperation.
Such a sad way to view the world.
First you have to have an understanding of “the common good”, which I’m quite certain he is lacking. There is only “the good for me”.
Cooperation is pussy liberal shit, a real American dies alone
No, he hates Trudeau, who has resigned. Why would you talk to a lame duck you despise?
Nah, he’s just refusing to talk to him because his goal is to tank America and this is a step in it. Funnel all the money to himself and his friends, rape and pillage, and eliminate it as a superpower, threat, or world influence for daddy Putin.
He also refused to answer calls from Von der Leyen.
He also refused to answer calls from Von der Leyen.
Maybe he doesn’t know how phones work.
I do remember him talking about writing letters to Kim Jong Un after all.
It’s proof that it’s not about the economy which would mean the door is always open to negotiate a better deal. It’s not about drugs since Canada could be calling to say, “We’ve made X changes to reduce drug trade.”
So that begs the question: what is this all about?
So that begs the question: what is this all about?
Wrecking the economy so billionaires can buy up infrastructure at fire-sale prices?
This is Putin getting his Puppet to weaken the USA to promote Putin’s goals. Donvict is a Russian asset. A weak USA helps Russia and BRICS, especially for objectives like Ukraine. Other players, like the oligarchs, are also beholden to Putin.
His brain operates like a hamster and wheel. The issue is that the hamster died a long time ago.
That poor thing has been lifelessly spinning for at least 9 years now… Someone should put it out of its misery.
I know Luigi doesn’t traditionally deal with hamsters, but he does have experience with general extermination, so maybe it’ll translate.
Of course I am talking about the Mario bros and their turtle extermination side hustle… For legal reasons.
A telephone call requires him to respond without his team in the loop. He’s not opening himself up to that.
Since taking office I’m getting more and more convinced that he’s in two modes. Teleprompter mode, where his words have been agreed upon by his team, and twitter rant, where he’s just spouting his own bile.
He never speaks candidly in person since winning the election. Even the press room statement after the air crash was a prepared piece with all the hate baked in. Sure he took some questions but they were predictable and mainly deflected.
Maybe he’s just mad that his wife and daughter never looked at him the way they looked at Trudeau.
He has to go after the beer to really hurt murica.
American alcohol is on the list of immediate tarrifs as well as orange juice, peanut butter, clothing, and cosmetics. There will be further tarrifs on dairy, beef, poultry, fruits and vegetables, steel, aluminum, cars, trucks, busses, and boats after a 21 day delay to give time for Canadian companies to adjust supply chains.
Coupled with the weather Florida has been having, “oranges from the United States” will probably no longer be a thing. They waited until Anita Bryant died. Coincidence? I think not. /s
Great info!
I was quite surprised to see coffee on the list. There’s only 1 state far enough south to grow coffee (Hawaii).
That means they import the beans grown elsewhere for processing.It turns out that Folgers does its roasting and packaging in New Orleans. It’s unclear where the beans are from, but I’m sure it’s “everywhere”.
To my friends in Canada, take this opportunity to upgrade from Folgers.
Costco has a great Colombian whole bean that they sail from Colombia to Quebec where it’s roasted and packaged. Cafe William’s Sailboat coffee. We love it. We’ll be buying it exclusively now!
Dude, just… shut up and let him fuck over the people who voted for him.
This is going to hurt me, and I did as hell didn’t vote for him
We were all going to suffer, but the only hope we have of avoiding slipping into a dictatorship is if the dumb fucks who say “both parties are the same” and the true undecideds who don’t pay attention suffer enough to side with the movement to preserve democracy. His base will never change their minds.
He’s raping civil liberties, minorities, women’s rights, worker’s rights, free press; I think it’s selfish to vocally complain about the one thing that affects you just because you’re not a teacher, or an immigrant, or gay.
This is something the while country will feel, and I hope the idiots who aren’t in his cult yet still voted for him will pay more attention as a result.
They will just blame Democrats
if only this affected just the people who voted for him…
Yeah, well, I was shocked that he didn’t have to cheat this time, and that he actually won the popular vote.
This is going to disproportionately hit blue collar voters, who tend to vote red. Billionaires will also be affected as stocks tank, since most of their value is disproportionately held in the market.
Everyone’s going to suffer; that’s a given. I don’t want the suffering to be limited to LGBTQ+, minorities, and women.
This is designed so billionaires can snap up assets in the cheap when the economy craters. They can hold their positions in what they currently have.
This sounds plausible. Billionaires can ride out a slump pretty easily, even if it lasts a decade, confident that they can buy low and sell when Democrats restore the economy[1].
I think the problem is that, this time, there may not be a rebound. Opportunists believe we can intelligence our way out of the extinction event we’ve created, and maybe we could have. I see no indication that we’ll collectively recognize and respond until it’s far too late. Global warming is already affecting economies, and by the time we recover from the economic devastation of Trump’s presidency, global warming may be the defining economic force.
[1] I am in no way a cheerleader for the modern (post 2k) Democratic party, but it doesn’t take much searching to find graphs that chart Republican/Democrat control against economic trends of the time. In the past 30 years or so, there’s been a strong correlation between Democratic leadership and strong economies and reduced national debt.
Who says he didn’t cheat? He said he was going to cheat, he tried to cheat last time, he even thanked Musk for “help with voting machines” IIRC. The fucker cheated and y’all just accepted it
I mean the usual Republican cheating, which is using The Fucking Electoral College, leading to elections where they list the general vote but won the election.
Republicans may very well have subverted voting machines, but I haven’t yet seen any evidence - only speculation.
Targeted tarrifs can be done in retaliation without hurting canada. Like not selling American booze. Canada makes tons of booze we can sell to ourselves
Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.
He was talking directly to the American People, as he mentioned right before this quote.
But it seems American media is invested in keeping the American people uninvested. Like this is between two leaders and we just get to watch.
There is nothing other countries can really do about this except impose tariffs in kind. When american inflation goes up I hope Americans put stickers on gas pumps and more eating “Trump did this”
Canada could start ignoring American intellectual property rights, or shutting off power exports to places like NY.
I’ve considered making some for exactly this purpose. This biggest hurdle is I would feel bad vandalizing the pumps and forcing someone else to clean up after me.
Make them magnets
Don’t feel bad for the gas companies. Also he put an exception on “energy”. That’s only getting 10%.
I don’t feel bad for the companies; I feel for the poor bastard that has to scrape it off.
They can just take their sweet, sweet time to take them off, time they get paid for. Probably more relaxing too.
I used to be a pump jockey, I personally wouldn’t have minded. Thats just my take of course.
It’s fascinating seeing how leftists think
Are you one of those work ethic advocates?
He doesn’t want to hurt Alberta – they’re his future fifth column
Stupid Marlaina Smith
Tariffs don’t work that way, putting the tariff up was stupid and putting a reactionary tariff up would also be stupid.
México could send 25% of his citizens.
I want to make ones that say “YOU did this” to maybe MAYBE give the trump dummies/non voters a moment of self reflection.
I’m curious if they’re gonna start pulling out of our stock market
Though Trump will most likely absurdly blame Biden & democrats somehow and MAGAs will dumbly eat it all.
If they make this year as shit as possible and it evens out next year they can say they saved the failing economy.
Am I the only one who was reminded of the opening video in Fallout 2?
Annexed Canada; lost Alaska to China. Then got exploded a lot.
Is it weird how many fallout references I’ve been seeing lately?
The state of most manufacturing facilities is already abysmal. They barely need any help going under.
Orange 🍊
Mangoes 🥭🥭🥭
Bananas 🍌🍌🍌
Ohh, that’s clever. It took me a moment.
spoiler
Orange man goes bananas
Did Donny dickbrain watch the southpark movie and think it was a documentry.
I’m waiting for him to announce “Operation Get-behind-the-darkies”.
And canadian bacon!
I just watched it for the first time last week…
I guess it was funnier in the 90s…
Don’t worry, Trump has already thought of that. No one knows more about driving businesses into the ground than him and he is still rich. It doesn’t matter that he couldn’t come up with cash to pay bonds, he knows more about business and negotiations than anyone. Trust in the well thought out plan!
Trump plays the long game! He absolutely negotiated as he puts it “a very bad deal” six years ago with Canada and Mexico so he could come back and stick it to them now. The brilliance, the genius behind it is mind boggling. It just goes and shows everyone how petty and greedy Canada and Mexico are for retaliating because they just hate Trump.
/S
Trump is the only person smart enough to play a game of 5D-chess this well.
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