Rep. Mary Miller ― a Republican from Illinois who once praised Adolf Hitler ― wrote, edited and ultimately deleted a social media post decrying “a Muslim” speaking in Congress.
“It’s deeply troubling that a Muslim was allowed to lead prayer in the House of Representatives this morning. This should have never been allowed to happen,” she wrote Friday. “American was founded as a Christian nation, and I believe our government should reflect that truth. May God have mercy!”
The man leading the prayer was guest chaplain Giani Singh, a follower of the Sikh faith, not Islam. Miller’s Republican colleague Rep. Jeff Van Drew (N.J.) introduced him as such on Friday.
Wow, this is exactly what someone who 1. doesn’t practice real Evangelical Christianity would say 2. would believe not having studied the most basic of United States history.
The separation of Church and State is exactly that. The Colonist came to North American because they didn’t like how the Church of England was being operated. In practice they might not have wanted other religious groups to have such freedom but if you try to take the Bill of Rights and Constitution at face value, then you as a person in the United States government have no reason to judge them for being a non-Christian. Much like how I much challenge you to prove you belong to a well regulated militia when you own a gun.
- would believe not having studied the most basic of United States history.
😂 🤣
As if whatever lessons she may have been exposed to in school were not simply written off as the school personnel trying to “groom her” and/or “fuck up her faith” for their own liberal ends…
😂
Really admiring the optimism about “school” in the original comment
I mean, let’s be real. The Pilgrims caught a ride. This country was basically founded by tobacco companies. The Virginia and Plymouth companies weren’t charities.
This is indeed deeply troubling. Whoever voted for that racist piece of shit should be ashamed
this is the conversation they WANT to have.
The US was founded as a secular state… No getting around that. There were only a few devout christians in the original group of founding fathers. Most were deist. They had the recent memory of the thirty years wars where catholic and protestant armies had rampaged back and forth across Europe stealing the peoples food. Raping and burning out anyone who wouldn’t convert. They did this to many who did convert. It was said at the time that they everyone kept two sets of bibles. They just hid one or the other depending on who had taken over at the time. That asshole regressive wouldn’t ever be willing to admit that. Because she is too stupid to learn it.
I would take it one step further and say they (founding fathers) were possibly even atheists, or at the extreme, very agnostic theists with the idea that IF god does exist, he doesn’t care or bother about us (which of course is deism). It would have been very unpopular back then to say god doesn’t exist, so deism was a step in that direction. Just my theory.
In some cases sure. Hamilton was very religious. He was also tolerant of other. The main consensus among the founding fathers was tolerance of differing beliefs. Something these ignorant fools today never learnt or most probably ignore.
Today’s reactionaries hate the (actual) American project as much as Tories way back when did.
They hate it with every fiber of their being. All their rhetoric about “America first” and the flag-waving and the pearl-clutching over “the troops”…all performative bullshit. They hate liberal democracy, they hate the Constitution, they hate the rule of law, and they hate freedom.
Very true.
A secular nation shouldn’t be having in house prayers from any denomination.
if we want to keep it secular, we need to make christians fear for their lives.
It’s deeply troubling that a Muslim was allowed to lead prayer in the House of Representatives this morning. This should have never been allowed to happen
I believe our government should reflect that truth.
She’s right: leading prayer in Congress at all should never be allowed. Government should reflect the truth of a secular government.
Yes. Government should be led by law not theology.
I’d say that you are spot on and people in the West who want to believe in strange middle east cults can do so quietly at home and not bother anyone with their hokey faith. That goes for Muslims, Jews, Christians and the rest of them.
Dumbfuck can’t even get her religions straight, and apparently she thinks America was founded to be a Christian theocracy. Astoundingly ignorant and misinformed, yet there she sits Congress, governing the nation with her 2 brain cells.
She probably has no idea what Deism is.
I was going to make a “DEIsm is woke, DEIsm is getting abolished, etc” joke… But it’s impossible to create a parody so extreme that some users won’t mistake it for the genuine thing. Poe’s Law is in full effect here.
/s works wonders when text can’t transfer the needed nuance and no one knows you.
The people would likely think its a cult worshiping Dhalsim from Street Fighter 2.
And thus call for all Deists to be deported.
Her average constituent sees turban and thinks Muslim.
She represents her district in more ways than one.
Religion is cancer.
Also a mental disorder.
Fucking idiot piece of shit jesu-fried fuckwit.
Wow just the fact that she feels emboldened enough to dribble out this poison and post it online is telling.
Who’s doing anything about it? Nobody is marching on their representative’s homes and offices. No letter-campaigns, we can’t even be bothered to vote as a country without it turning into the apathy-olympics.
big oof
Can’t wait for TST to show up!
The thought path of a short-minded individual: Turban->Muslim.
I’m all for a minimum IQ to enter politics. This would probably disqualify 50% of Congress & Senate. And 100% of the cabinet.
I heard somewhere that one of the first hate crimes against Muslims following 9/11 was against a Sikh person…
IQ is a poor metric (for just about anything).
We do need to work on election reform so that our elected representatives are more representative. Getting more people to vote (turn out in the U.S. is fairly low), avoiding partizan gerrymandering, using something other than FPtP.
That notwithstanding, but being as stupid and uneducated as US politicians regularly appear, such a regulation would be helpful regardless of how they are elected.
I disagree that an IQ restriction would be an improvement. It would just be another tool used by authority to marginalize. Competency tests have been used as such in both the U.S. South and Nazi Germany.
Improving the electorate and having the output of the voting process reflect their will is the only way forward.
Mary Miller represents district 15 which surrounds but does not include both Springfield and St. Louis. It is 90% white, 2.9% black, and 2.8% Hispanic. There are basically no non-Republican elected officials above the county level and voted overwhelmingly for Trump. This district became home of the second resurgence of the KKK in Illinois in the 1920s and has stayed their home through resurgences in the 1950s and 1990s.
Illinois redistricted recently and it was gerrymandered to fuck to make sure that her district was absolutely backwoods conservative as possible. It practically ensures Illinois will swing blue for the next decade. She’s unfortunately my representative, but I’ll live with that reality knowing that my existence as her constituent pisses her off and Illinois stays blue.
I hate Illinois Nazis.
One of the most insufferable people I have ever known lives in her district. He moved there willingly because of politics. I cut ties entirely over a year ago and it’s been great.
I almost feel less bald for it. (A lie.)
Well you see, the thing about conservatives is that they are fucking stupid.
People of the land… you know… morons
Why is the common clay so common?
And they celebrate their ignorance…
Trump loves the poorly educated, he said so himself. And they want daddy trump to love them.
That’s what he says to his reflection in the mirror every morning.
America is fucked
Well you see, the thing about conservatives is that they are fucking
stupidself-serving liars.FTFY
This bitch knows damn well America isn’t a “Christian nation,” but she’ll shout it from the rooftops if she thinks she can get away with it in order to advance her hateful, bigoted agenda.
Do. Not. Give. Her. Any. Benefit. Of. The. Doubt.
Well you see, the thing about conservatives is that they are fucking
stupid self-serving liarsevil.Fixed it for you. Some of the old school Republicans are that, true. But, this new Republican party adopted their sinister mindset because “god said so”. While a few of them are motivated by greed, this shit-fest is motivated by legitimate belief. Incidentally, this is the same minset that motivated the crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Salem witch trials, 9/11, and ISIS. Its a fundamentalist mindset where they can jusify evil in god’s name.
This bitch knows damn well America isn’t a “Christian nation,”
Maybe, or maybe she actually believes the lie. Or, maybe, she thinks it her mission to turn the United States into the holy land (ISIS thought the same thing about the middle east, and probably the world).
she’ll shout it from the rooftops if she thinks she can get away with it in order to advance her hateful, bigoted agenda.
Yep. She’s a true believer.
Counterpoint: none of the beliefs you mentioned, from the Crusades to the Inquisition, were ever “legitimate.” Evil is never legitimate, by definition.
The older Republicans of Limbaugh and Raegan?
Before that, who opposed civil rights?
The ones before that, who refused to hang the confederates after the war?
Never has the conservative in this country been not-evil, the moderate core is unable to give a fuck Amir anything but their own American dreams.
The older Republicans included guys Theodore Roosevelt or Eisenhower, the ones who wanted a small government that leaves you alone. They seem to have died off after Regan.
Bet she doesn’t even know the whitehouse holds a shill PR ramadan iftar event every year regardless of the party in power lol
Did it happen this year?
Yeah on March 28th
American was founded as a Christian nation
– Every American Christian Bigot
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
– First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States
🤔
Disrespecting the religion seems to be fine with them though.
These dumbasses still have not figured out that the very first of the Ten Commandments and the Bill of Rights are in direct conflict, LOL. If they want a xtian nation, they should fuck off and move to the Vatican.
Don’t forget:
The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
– John Adams
“As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religious or tranquility of Musselmen [Muslim peoples], and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan [Muslim] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.” - Treaty of Tripoli, signed 1797.
You might also acquaint yourself with the actual religious beliefs of many founding fathers
I thought they were deists
Thomas Jefferson had his own personally edited version of the Bible that focused on the philosophies and stories in the Bible, and left out the supernatural mythology and fairy tales. There were parts of the religion he liked, but he was clearly uncomfortable with the actual religious parts of it.
And he actually WROTE the founding documents.
TJ was Deist, not Christian.
Honestly who could say what they meant by that, it’s such an open to interpretation remark.
Good thing we know exactly what they meant in the second amendment.
The thing you have to realize is that some words change meaning over time. If you check a dictionary from the time, you’ll find that back then “regulated” meant… oh, looks like it meant the exact same thing it means today. Huh, looks like it’s meant the same thing since it was taken from Latin. Fancy that.
Yes but they’re going to go extinct if we cut off their arms.
Those poor bears
It literally says “Congress,” of which she is a member.
Every newly elected Congressional Rep and Senator should have to pass a difficult, graduate-level test on the history of the United States, and the Constitution, before being sworn into office. You can’t be sworn in until you pass the test. These people are tasked with leading our country. Knowing the basics is the least we can demand of them.
I’m with you in your frustration, but this only furthers a class of elites being eligible to govern. The test needs to be at a level that anyone going through compulsory education could pass. Eg 8th grade.
Additionally, I would do the test at candidate registration. There is no pass fail, but the electorate can decide if they’re qualified enough (as it’s the right of the electorate).
Maybe it doesn’t fix it fully but we can directly point to who is a moron, and who voted for said morons.
Valid suggestions. My suggestion was just a starting point, and yours offers some good adjustments. I worry the educational standards being different in all states may make it harder for those in some states to pass the test.
Besides, I don’t think we want some schlub off the street that barely knows an 8th grade level of history/civics running our country. I want people who take it seriously, and have sought further knowledge, education, and insight into the government. I don’t see anything wrong with experts managing the country. Part of the problem we have now is that we have evil morons whose entire political and historical education has come from the Conservative Propaganda Machine, and believe that Intolerance is a virtue.
I have always had a problem with the word “elites.” Somehow it has become a term of disparagement, often a dog whistle for Jews. Oxford dictionary defines it as:
a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society.
Isn’t that who we want running our country?
And they won’t be paid until they pass either.
Why the FUCK would I Care about the Constitution or Founders?
-Pro Life People who Defend MASS CHILD KILLERS because of the Second Amendment!
Would this be considered ad hominem?
