Looks like she’s got some homework to do.

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    Something has always bothered me about her. Not the fact that she was probably witness and participated in the rape and abuse of the girls.

    But how she got into the picture.

    Not to mention, she had her own environmental non-profit (clearly a front) that took all sorts of money for international waters (you know, the implication).

    Her father was found dead “having fell off his yacht.” Then his businesses collapsed, ultimatelty it was discovered he embezzled hundreds of millions of pounds($$).

    But more importantly, is that he was suspected to be a triple agent tied to the U.S., Israel, and by none other than Russia. Which, is awfully strange considering Trump’s ties to Russia, and the US ties with Israel.

    She, herself, grew up amongst incredible wealth. Why would she need to be the recruiter for Epstein? Why would she be madly in love with him, or be his assistant? Apparently she was one to have “organized his life.”

    When her father died, she was left with an £80k/yr income and lived in New York City and was pretty much just a socialite. In 1991, £80k/yr still wasn’t that impressive for NYC. Her father had also introduced Maxwell to Epstein. She would have been in her 20s. Then they “broke up.” But remained extremely close.

    Russia, Israel, US. Trump, Maxwell, Epstein. The wealthiest and most powerful knew her and despite her lost wealth, kept her around. Why would they do that?

    Easy - she had the ability to coerce girls into being raped. She probably plays a huge part in this, and if I had to guess, Trump and friends want her free because of what she can do for them. They would have killed her already if she had less value.

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        My therapist calls it anxiety or catastrophic thinking.

        I call it pattern recognition, annoyingly powerful imagination, and limited prescience.

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      Not the fact that she was probably witness and participated in the rape and abuse of the girls.

      You can leave out the “probably”. She’s a convicted felon. She’s not in prison because she was Epstein’s romantic partner. She was accused by raped girls and found guilty by the court. That’s why she’s serving 20 years. She’s just lucky she’s a woman because otherwise this whole affair would be called “Epstein / Maxwell” but it’s like when a hot female teacher commits statutory rape and everyone calls it “had sex with one of her students”.

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        I don’t think any of the accused said she participated or was present during the rape.

        Besides, she got the harsher sentencing of trafficking anyway, which covers it.

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          Okay, maybe I misremembered since the trial was some years ago.

          Anyhow, just to make it clear, I think her original sentence and the trial were fair. I was just going on a rant about current reporting on her. Which helps the current admin spin the story on her. Let’s see who believes it…

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    • list of “clients” to memorize
    • 1 heavy duty file with double-cut serration
    • 1 rock hammer
    • 1 poster of Raquel Welch
    • 1 box Entemann’s chocolate doughnuts
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    Wait she left the prison for this? They brought a felon out of jail to have an interview at the Department of Justice? They didn’t go to her? That’s so fucking weird.

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    IIRC she’s been documenting everything on paper whilst she’s been in prison. I suspect it’s so that they can make this evidence ‘disappear’.

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      then why let her leave with it? hell why let her leave at all? I mean don’t they have windows that are fairly high up at the DOJ?

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        She’s valuable to them.

        It’s not exactly easy for 70 year old well known billionaires to walk anywhere and ask 15 year olds to hang out with them and get raped.

        She’s always been a socialite. She knows how to get people to do things, and the rest of the elite know she has skills they don’t - namely she can get them girls they couldn’t otherwise obtain, and she wouldn’t say shit about it. She’s been doing it for decades, and I imagine when she was imprisoned a lot of powerful men were very upset.

        Are there others that could do it? Probably. But finding someone to do that, and then trusting them enough to not squeel? She’s been in prison, and when she was on the stand, she said nothing - read the court transcripts, she controlled her whole narrative.

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      I have doubts Trump was involved in Epstein’s death. I don’t think he has the spine for that sort of stuff.

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        I don’t think they were implying trump assassinated Epstein personally; but rather ordered the hit.

        Given we’re talking about a supposed peadophile with a litany of accusers in his wake; I wouldn’t say telling someone else to end the guy keeping a black book with all the dirty history is far fetched at all. The murder happened whilst trump was president; and trump evidently had a lot of close ties with Epstein (alluding to the possibility that he had a lot if not the most to lose… Should Epstein turncoat to save his own skin etc…).

        I don’t think ordering a hit is something that requires a spine; in the name of self preservation, one could even argue it’s a cowardly act.

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        Americans really seem to want to do nothing, don’t they…

        They should be marching on the capital, instead they defend inaction and talk about how the government want violence so they can get away with everything they’re already getting away with.

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            Tell that to the people who have already ran out of options.

            This is the ‘First they came for the immigrants and trans’ part of your future reflection. Maybe you can ‘never again’ it in 15 years time so you can feel like you did something to save lives.

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    Here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.

    https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)

    https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80

    Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac

    Here’s the flight logs https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/

    —————————other Epstein Information

    https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf here’s a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.

    Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katies testimony on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo

    Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Epstein and Israel both hired lawyer Alan Dershowitz, who says he’s building ‘legal dream team’ to defend Israel in court and on internationally | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid

    Epstein Docs: https://ia600705.us.archive.org/21/items/epsteindocs/

    Epstein Bribes/Payments: 1 BILLION+ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7IrEi-ybzs

    —————————other Trump information:

    Here’s trump admitting to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show: https://youtu.be/iFaQL_kv_QY

    Trump’s promise to his daughter: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-dating-promise_n_57ee98cbe4b024a52d2ead02 “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her,” Trump said. “So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.”

    Trump’s modeling agency was probably part of Jeffreys pipeline: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/

    A good summary of Trump-Epstein timeline: https://thepresidential.medium.com/we-have-been-gaslit-about-donald-trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-for-four-years-fbda67c20f75

    • ⁠Much of this info can also be found on: https://theepsteindocs.com/

    Feel free to do your part and spread this info around so it is never “lost”.