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    Well at least he’s saying it. Hopefully that reflects a renewed interest in reform, but I’m not going to hold my breath.

    My guess is analysts blame the misinformation campaign run against him and Kamala and are going to try and shift the message, 12 years too late. Hopefully.

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    Pretty fucking rich to warn everyone of the tech industial complex that he himself had a direct hand in creating with the Patriot Act. This kickstarted the idea of the US three leters creating PRISM and basically created an impermeable blanket of protection for big tech to spy on Americans and then turn around and sell that data back to the goverment.

    https://theintercept.com/2021/04/27/biden-september-11-patriot-act/

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    “Today, an oligarchy is taking shape in America of extreme wealth, power and influence that threatens our entire democracy, our basic rights, the freedoms and the fair shot for everyone to get ahead,” Biden said.

    You could have spoken up about this and done something about it over the last 4 years buddy.

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      Before that, too. He’s very much contributed to it himself, what with the bankruptcy bill, that awful crime bill that was so beneficial to the oligarchs who profit from carceral slavery, his tireless advocacy for MBNA, and much, much more.

      His political NASCAR jacket would be so full that you wouldn’t be able to read the individual names, but it would have an enormous Israeli flag on it.

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        I mean he should’ve put his money where his mouth was in Trump’s prosecution. The fact that Trump is walking free right now is unequivocally the fault of Biden and Garland.

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        Maybe if he could speak with more gusto than a dying electronic greeting card, we’d actually believe that he meant it.

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        He said democracy was at stake more times than I can count

        he was met with laughter, old man jokes, humiliation, claims of hyperbole and fear mongering, and takes like this from media

        These are not related. He was met with that treatment after saying 1 thing (democracy is in danger) while being a pathetic choice for saving it yet continuing on anyway. The actual response to him claiming danger was “cool, whatcha gonna do about it?”

        “Democracy is in danger! That’s why I, Me. We Beat Medicare, should stay in the race until the last minute!”

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          “Democracy is in danger, so I’m going to run a campaign which specifically and exclusively caters to the Nazis that put us in danger rather than spend an ounce of time appealing to the base”

          “Democracy is in danger, so when my internal polls show I’m going to get creamed this election, I’m going to stay in and tell the world I’m sundowning”

          “Democracy is in danger, so I’m going to spend the next year sending billions to a fascist nation committing genocide despite 70% of Americans opposition and 90% of my base hating that move”

          Fuck Biden and the DNC for putting us in this position. When a fascist rose, y’all spent your time jacking each other off about the importance of legacy. Your legacy is ashes and a public that despises you.

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      What is it that you propose he had done in the last 4 years?

      The 2016 Maga tax plan doesn’t expire until 2026, so that’s out the window.

      Executive orders can’t really do much about economy or individuals.

      Congress was deadlocked senate 50:50 and house majority was lost in 2022.

      The FTC and other federal offices were already investigating monopolies and giving out massive record breaking billions in fines.

      He cancelled billions if not trillion or more in debts for students, veterans, medical debts, etc.

      The treasury and the fed controlling rates reversed the inflation that peaked in his first year as president despite it not serving the interests of hedge funds.

      Seems like Biden was a good president who followed the rules and did everything that he could.

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          I don’t think a president can decide how elections are done, for obvious reasons. Thats definitely for Congress and individual states to decide, moreso the latter as each state decides how to alott their EC votes themselves.

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            Did he try? Was it even part of his agenda?

            No, because he doesn’t want it to change. Because he’s a plutocrat.

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              He shouldn’t try, thats what despots do. Trump can try changing how elections are done and maybe the good people fight him off or maybe this country gets what it deserves and sets an example for future generations.

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                  No, they don’t, because any individual in power who changes elections is always the person you don’t want changing elections.

                  You have to realize that any singular person cannot comprehend the relative good or bad of their actions and therefor all good moral principles come from selflessly putting that power in the hands of voters.

                  If people want to change how voting works, they have that option. The USA are just dumbasses who keep voting against it.

                  It is not and was never Biden’s job to fix everything at every level of government.

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    "Today, an oligarchy is taking shape in America of extreme wealth, power and influence that literally threatens our entire democracy

    Taking shape? Like it’s new? Like it’s only now just emerging? Jesus Christ, Biden…

    Fucking neoliberal trash.

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      No

      Biden has his faults, sure, but Trump & co are on such another level that it’s literally not funny anymore

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            The point is that both are terrible and should be imprisoned for their crimes. By saying 'but Trump tho" you’re trying to take the discussw away from condemning Biden in this article about Biden.

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              Trump has committed (and currently is committing) an amount of crimes that should leave him rotting in a.jail cell for centuries

              What are Biden’s crimes?

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                  Really now?

                  Cool…

                  Anything you have to support your slightly ridiculous claim?

                  Also, and I really look forward to this answer: do you think trump will stop all this, give the Palestinians their land back and let them have their own state …? Or do you think he’ll eradicate them, wipe his ass with them while he’s pointing and laughing at them while they’re dying?

                  Do you really believe that trump will do better than Harris?

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        Without Biden, Trump and Co. had a pretty fucking decent shot at losing. Sorry, but between his breathtaking hubris for running again, and his inflexibility on Israel, I will never, ever forgive that man. He had one fucking job, and he fucking blew it. Same-sex marriage will be “state by state” by the end of the year, and I will be an old man before my LGBT and female friends and family have their rights restored - and that’s if they have their rights restored.

        That is a cost of decades upon the ones I love. I cannot and will not forgive that because he has a “D” next to his name when he did more than any single person to ensure that theocratic fascist cretinous scum with an “R” next to their names got locked into power.

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    I no longer have any charity for these outgoing presidential remarks. What he is saying makes sense, but given that he didn’t bring this up or do anything about it when he had power, these sentiments are hollow pandering at best. Fuck you Joe Biden, your legacy is that you presided over the dissolution of American democracy and did genocide. No hollow words on your way out will change that.

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    he had most opportunity do something about about it and did absolutely nothing to say the country and its people.

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      He could have put them all in gitmo or worse as an official act for security reasons including the illegitimate supreme Court members and it would have been totally legal,per the courts ruling

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        bro was given the choice to either ride off in disgrace, or be the man who willfully chose to do something that would start a second civil war. bro chose the former.

        people are going to die. he just chose not to be the one to make the decision. its the runaway train / track problem. do nothing, and something horrific happens do something, and something horrific still happens.

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          You suppose either that:

          • he never read the communication from whitehouse.gov
          • he never cared about it
          • he isn’t or wasn’t aware of it
          • he wasn’t told about the change

          What’s the best explanation?

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            He has staff who have autonomy to make decisions on the trivial things, so he can focus on big picture. In any org over about 35 people, you kind of need to do that, otherwise the exec is going to be killed by a thousand papercuts

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              He has staff who have autonomy to make decisions on the trivial things, so he can focus on big picture.

              He has staff to ignore the plebs for him. Who do we think we are, Netanyahu?

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    I can honestly say I have never given less of a fuck about what a president has had to say about his legacy.

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    Thanks for the comments to read through. I can now confidently say that America is a failed experiment based on these conversations alone.