NRA been quiet right

  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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    20 days ago

    Well i’m not sure whether it’s the tyranny they were always talking about.

    after all, the US is sometimes incredibly racist, and these voices are influential rn. so it’s not surprising that there isn’t really a lot of loud voices invoking the 2nd amendment rn. especially not from the trump supporters.

  • DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    Who would’ve guessed that people overly obsessed with firearms and very vocal about their obsession had small dicks.

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    2A guy here. for the record assault weapons should be banned or regulated to fuckall, and all firearms should be registered to licensed Americans.

    I’m not saying anything too loudly because it’s bad tactics to give away your position when in a conflict.

    nobody knows who or what is behind your door. use that to your advantage.

    that is all.

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      Says pro2a…then says ban and license everything so the gov has a registry…

      Pressing X for doubt really hard on this one

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        eat shit if you believe that weapons shouldn’t be registered to licensed and trained individuals.

        without a registry and path to licensing children will keep getting killed in schools, people will keep getting killed at public events.

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          A registery isn’t going to magically solve people shooting each other…and no I don’t believe there should be a registry…you know why? Because when fascist are charge like right now, do you think they’ll let minorities own or purchase weapons to protect themselves?

          A registry and licensing is not and will never solve our gun violence issues, because we don’t have a gun problem, we have a societal problem.

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            it’s a mental health problem, not a societal problem. and the best way to ensure that violent smooth brain assholes don’t get guns is to register them and ensure they are trained and licensed.

            stop acting like a troll. registry and licensing works in other countries just fine. perhaps we wouldn’t have as many of those “societal issues” if there was more gun regulation, specifically assault weapons.

            there’s no “magic bullet” that’s going to solve everything, but doing nothing does nothing.

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              No it is not just a mental health problem. And the reason it works in other countries is because they A) dont have anywhere near the amount of firearms we do in civ hands and b) because they have safety nets for their citizens.

              I’ve not said to not do anything. I’ve said we need to work on our society. Doing half this list would cut our violent crime in half in under a decade. Registration and licensing would not do a damn thing.

              Single payer healthcare, so people can get mental health without going broke and avoiding it. Or turning to suicide, which is 2/3rds of our firearm deaths.

              Reform prisoners, not lock them away for forever and rob them of ever being a productive member of society.

              Get rid of for profit prisons, so we’re not turning an addict into someone who gets out of prison and can’t get a job because they carry a felony.

              End qualified immunity so the 1/40 gun deaths aren’t from police who just kill people and get away with it.

              Increase our school funding 10 fold. Build more schools, so class sizes can be 10-15 kids max per teacher. Not 30-40+

              Solidify abortion rights into law, why the hell it’s been left to the courts for so long is insane. More unwanted children doesn’t create mentally stable people.

    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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      well, the interesting thing is that Karl Marx himself supported worker’s right to bear arms, funnily enough.

      knowing this, i’ve completely changed my point of view on firearms. yes, they do a lot of harm and definitely should be dealt with cautiously. and also it’s completely beyond any meaningful stance that facebook allows pictures of firearms, but not naked breasts.

      but apart from that, the issue of firearms is more interesting than it seems at first glance, and i guess a re-evaluation is warranted.

  • Secret Music@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    21 days ago

    They’re hanging out with the free speech people, watching university students get deported for speaking freely and laughing at it.

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    I’m not being quiet about it AT ALL. This is why I’ve been trying to convince my liberal friends to arm themselves for years.

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        Point open end towards the thing you’re shooting, press stock into armpit. Insert loaded magazine, pull back bolt, turn off safety, squeeze trigger. If automatic, squeeze trigger again, repeat. You can also find indoor ranges that will have classes usually. Most will have limits on calibers allowed though. Outdoor ranges usually have no limits (or do but aren’t monitored).

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        Join a club or find some locals to tag along with. Go to a range and start shooting. I do suggest to start with a 22lr because of the cost of ammo these days, don’t not practice with the larger calibers, but for $25 you can get 350+ rounds of 22lr vs like 40ish rounds of .223/556 or even less with 308.

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          Plinkers are so much fun. Great to practice with, no recoil, and not very loud. I suggest people have a .22 and a shotgun (for defense and to get a feeling for how to deal with recoil and sound without flinching). 20g can be affordable, too. 12g gets a little costly and can be a little too rough for those not prepared for them.

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      Bought my first gun ever immediately after the November election. When anyone brings up the stock market these days I tell them I’m investing in seeds, fresh water, and ammunition.

      • JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca
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        Invest in water purification, if that isn’t what you meant. The means to make safe water in decent quantities is going to be so important. I’m very lucky to have a strong spring fed swamp/bog on my property that I’m confident in being able to purify if my well crapped out somehow. Plan next winter is to get out there and find out where exactly the spring is.

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          Got 2 acres of swamp in the boonies. If I had to do it all over again, with the money I’ve blown over the last 5 years, I would have dropped a well and solar powered pump. Nothing on Earth is as important as water. Hell, just putting in a gravity shower was a game changer.

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            Don’t discount the value of surface water, be it for irrigation, livestock, power generation/pumped hydro, or simply boiling the piss out of and filtering. I am working on an impoundment at the high point of the property and a pumping system to get water up there/generate electricity on it’s way back down.

            • shalafi@lemmy.world
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              Oh no I don’t discount it! Surface water is where I get all my water. Gotta fix my little pump tonight, but I use it to get water uphill 150’ to the barrel on top of my shower/sink thing. I chunk a 1" chlorine tabs in the 69g tank, good to good. Bonus: any silt settles to the bottom couple of inches. I’ll have to dump and clean it someday, but for now it’s crystal clear “pool water”. Damned nice shower after working all day in the heat and humidity!

              If I really had to I could make it drinkable, but I’m thinking a deep enough well would solve that? Isn’t that the idea, go deep enough and the water is clean? Again, the property is half swamp so the water table is only a few feet underground. Advice?

              • JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca
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                Drill baby drill. My well is super iron rich but remediable, it runs through a big salt filter then we put in through a Brita to drink. I would look for a section of ledge and save up to drill through that.

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        The ‘under no pretext’ phrase is significantly stronger than ‘the right to bear arms’ if both were the word of law. It explicitly says to confront anyone who threatens it.

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    19 days ago

    So we should start calling ICE to report fashy gun owners are harboring illegal aliens, yes?

    Maybe even illegal aliens with blogs that are critical of fascism.

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      Yeah, like seat belts in cars, right? Why the fuck is that mandatory? Who cares if I get ejected from my car in an accident. It’s my body my choice, amirite? Why the fuck are child safety seats mandatory in cars for carrying babies and small children when we can simply carry them on our lap in the passenger seat? Why even have all these stupid driving laws? Can’t we just drive anyway we want without having to wait for a stupid light to go green? That’s all government overreach.

      /s

  • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    They’re fine with tyranny as long as they see it as “their” tyranny. And they’ll still be blaming the gays and the immigrants when they themselves are dragged off to the gulag.

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    They’re 100% OK about right wing autocracy and white supremacy. That’s been their thing the whole time.

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    21 days ago

    I wonder what’ll happen when they raid a house belonging to one of the trigger-happy gun collectors

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      See the Breonna Taylor case or one of the many, many instances where dumbfuck no-knock raids got a cop put on GoFundMe. If the gun owner survives the encounter, they’re likely to be prosecuted for not magically knowing the home invaders were cops, or not believing “Police! Police!” (because everyone knows only cops can shout that). The cops will definitely shoot back, though, and there’s a high probability that the gun owner will not survive the initial encounter. Still, if enough cops get put on back window stickers, they’ll start exercising some discretion.

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        One the same day Rittenhouse got off, a guy who defended himself against this exact thing was acquitted. But since the weapon he used wasn’t properly registered to him (a charge which the judge for Rittenhouse shrugged off and tossed on a whim) that guy got 30 years in spite.

        They’ll find the loopholes to achieve the desired outcome.

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        I always yell fbi when I’m robbing places that used to mean federal warrant. No idea what that shit means these days the fbi is a clown show. I’ll probably just switch to yelling robbery in the future.

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        If the cops or ICE knock down your door, they are looking for any excuse to kill you. I’m not worried about surviving, let alone prosecution. I’m opening fire on anyone who kicks in my door. And no, I don’t have to stumble fuck around to get a weapon in hand. Catch me on the shitter. GTG.

        And now that I have a brown (legal) immigrant wife, the stakes are suddenly real.

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      A solid majority of the 2nd amendment crowd will immediately ask what they can do to lick the boot harder. Those motherfuckers love jackbooted authoritarianism as long as it’s aimed at the right minorities.

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      The homeowner will roll out with a gun and immediately be killed in a hail of bullets, despite acting entirely within their rights. No ICE agents will face any consequences, and the warrantless raids will continue. That’s what usually happens anyway. The 2nd amendment is a farce; law enforcement can legally kill you for exercising your right to bear arms if they want to.

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        Home owner doesn’t roll out anywhere, he starts blasting the door knowing it’s not gonna end well

        Still, better than not doing anything. Make these fuckers afraid to go breaking into places in the night.

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          I’d prefer to die with my boots on, thank you very much. Hell, the pigs have trained us, by their actions, that if they knock down the door, they’re there to kill.

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          They’ll just start knocking the house over with bulldozers like Fallujah, or bomb them like they did in Philly.