Top virologists raise alarm over potential for bird flu pandemic
fortune.com
Experts from over 40 countries are sounding the alarm over the increasing threat of H5N1 avian flu.
    • carrion0409@lemm.ee
      62·
      14 days ago

      This is literally the worst possible time for it to happen. If you think global trade and prices are fucked right now then just you wait.

  • IninewCrow@lemmy.caEnglish
    149·
    14 days ago

    “Top virologists raise alarm” … that didn’t help last time. People and government won’t take notice or want to take action until we see people with blood coming out of their eyes and dying in the streets, and even then, everyone will be more worried about the economy than in the body count.

    • nao@sh.itjust.works
      351·
      14 days ago

      at least worrying about the economy would be an improvement to just worrying about their personal freedom

        • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldEnglish
          31·
          13 days ago

          I’m not sure bird flu would work that way, anyway, but I’m sure lots of people with the bro science will declare that it does. Just like the bro science people were saying people were only dying “with” Covid, not “from” Covid.

        • anomnom@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          111·
          13 days ago

          They wanted blue cities to die first. But somehow thought it would never get to the red places.

      • SolarMonkey@slrpnk.netEnglish
        2·
        13 days ago

        The third pandemic is a good book about a variety of diseases, including bird flu, mingling in a host (bird) body, morphing into a superbug, and wiping out huge swaths of the population.

        If you like to read, it’s quite good, if a bit long. (but notably I read it in 5th grade and hauled around a dictionary for a lot of it… it sticks hard in my memory, because my step dad gave it to me after finishing it himself, and it was a challenge. One of our few shared positive things from the era where he almost killed me multiple times… but I haven’t read it in a hot minute; just shy of 30 years…)

      • redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        1·
        13 days ago

        There’s a movie for this. Bird flu in america, was mediocre but somehwat accurate for the death rate portrayed

  • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
    9·
    13 days ago

    And they mostly won’t

    Just saying this based off covid which came after sars2 and i remember in each time there were warning signs way WAY before and nobody really bothered.

    Sure, covid may have shaken governments a bit and people maybe finally remember, but most will just let it go happen until its right around the door, to only then spring in action when its again too late

    • monotremata@lemmy.caEnglish
      59·
      13 days ago

      There will probably be some slant in that direction, but there’ll be a much bigger slant towards killing the elderly, the immunocompromised, those who can’t afford medical care and time off, etc. As usual.

      • scintilla@lemm.ee
        93·
        13 days ago

        As terrible as it feels to say with the way elderly people vote they more often than not fall into the nazi camp. I know my gandad does with fox constantly playing.

    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned from community
      933·
      12 days ago

      Hopefully it kills the uber-privileged carnists responsible for all of this death and disease.

      • AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works
        161·
        12 days ago

        being able to be vegan/vegetarian is a privilege. it’s expensive as hell for starters. you can eat meat and still want change in the meat industry.

        • Lycarael@lemmy.world
          101·
          12 days ago

          Not to mention there are people who physically have to eat meat. I have anemia due to stage 4 endometriosis. I can’t take iron supplements so have to eat meat or I get very sick.

      • Formfiller@lemmy.world
        2·
        12 days ago

        I doubt it will they all have doomsday bunkers. I do hope that they are forced to cower in them for the rest of their days though……because guillotine

    • MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world
      5·
      12 days ago

      Unfortunately, it’s the rich that are feeding them the garbage that’s infested their minds. I don’t think there’s any saving the masses from the delusion they’re slobbering up, but as long as the buffet keeps getting restocked, the pigs will keep fattening up for the slaughter.

  • MoonlightFox@lemmy.world
    26·
    14 days ago

    How to prepare for this shit again? I guess I can start by storing some masks, and a lot more food.

    Any advice or thoughts? I can work from home fulltime, and grocery deliveries is possible.

      • MoonlightFox@lemmy.world
        1·
        13 days ago

        Thanks, that mortality rate is frighteningly high. Luckily no human to human transmission so far. Hopefully never.

        Might be good to have some personal protective equipment in my emergency toolkit, as people would probably go instantly nuts for that if there is a breakout of human to human transmission.

      • thingAmaBob@lemmy.world
        3·
        12 days ago

        That’s not possible for all of us. I have dietary issues and food allergies that keep me on a strict diet. Animal protein (and even the type is limited) is the only source of main protein I can eat regularly without getting sick. Shit like this scares me because I’m afraid I could literally end up starving to death if all the birds and fish die.

          • thingAmaBob@lemmy.world
            1·
            12 days ago

            I have IBS/GERD and the food allergies aren’t actually limiting (it’s only two things). The combo of IBS & GERD limit what I can eat in general, and vegetarian or vegan sources of protein must be eaten in very small amounts seldomly or I simply cannot eat them at all. I am unable to eat even wheat/seitan or soy or dairy. Seldom can I eat beans/lentil/nuts/seeds.

    • carrion0409@lemm.ee
      35·
      14 days ago

      My recommendation is to honestly just do what we did during covid. The government likely won’t be enforcing anything this time so we’re probably gonna be on our own. Also I recommend stocking up on things asap. We’re already having supply chain issues and it’s gonna get infinitely worse if or when this pops off.

      • MoonlightFox@lemmy.world
        26·
        14 days ago

        I live in Norway, so the government will do everything in it’s power to protect its citizens probably. Like it did during COVID.

        Theres no supply chain issues here currently either. During COVID pretty much everything was available besides acceptably priced GPUs

          • krashmo@lemmy.world
            141·
            14 days ago

            If you get the flu just attend the next Trump rally you can find and cough as much as possible

              • krashmo@lemmy.world
                9·
                14 days ago

                I think so. Spit on your hands and touch all the door handles you can find. Introduce yourself with a handshake to everyone you encounter. Buy a MAGA hat and see if you can get a picture or something with Trump. Turn yourself into a full on bio weapon that exclusively targets fascists.

                • carrion0409@lemm.ee
                  51·
                  14 days ago

                  I’m gonna become a carrier from left 4 dead. I’ll show no symptoms but I’ll get everyone around me infected

            • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
              1·
              13 days ago

              Ethically, I hate it. Realistically, the pandemic largely happened in the US because it was used as biological warfare against the populace, hoping that it would stay in blue areas and, turnabout is fair play.

    • Michael@slrpnk.netEnglish
      14·
      14 days ago

      The best thing to prepare is to not be fearful and to not panic.

      I suggest that everybody protest against factory farming and participate in boycotts. Call lawmakers and regulators to take direct action against these companies and their dangerous practices (and hold them responsible).

  • Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
    412·
    13 days ago

    The fucknut RFK will tell the AmeriKans to drink fish tank cleaner or bleach and shove a UV light down their throats. When this things slams into the USA, Krasnov will continue to fail.

    • KingPorkChop@lemmy.caEnglish
      212·
      13 days ago

      I’m ok with this.

      We’ve known about vaccines, germ theory, and virus for quite some time now. If they want to kill themselves because they choose to not follow the science, so be it. I’m tired of having this conversation with the wilfully and proudly ignorant tomato soup brained infants.

        • Lycarael@lemmy.world
          4·
          12 days ago

          Get down off your high horse. There are people who physically have to eat meat. Btw if you have to take supplements because your diet doesn’t contain enough nutrients, your diet is bad.

          • Gloomy@mander.xyz
            1·
            12 days ago

            Let me try to engage with the last point rationally.

            Yes, of course, Vegans take supplements. At least B12 is a required.

            I personally don’t think that makes it a “bad” diet.

            From my perspective, it is the morally correct way of living, for many reasons, one of them beeing that it causes the least amount of suffering for sentient beeing.

            The point you are making (and correct me if I am wrong) is that taking supplements means it’s not a natural way of eating, hence the need for supplements.

            I agree. It is not.

            But there are plenty of things that are natural for us, but we have decided that they are morally bad and hence should not be practiced. Violence, for example, is so natural in humans that even after thousands of years of civilisation we still require laws to regulate or punish it, alongside “outlets” for our violence (like Marital Arts or Video Games). I am sure you can think of other things that are natural to humans, but are considered immoral.

            Eating animals is, in my opinion, just the next step in that line. It’s something that was needed once but is not any longer, at least for the vast majority of people (as you hinted at in the first half of your comment).

      • Tedesche@lemmy.worldEnglish
        811·
        13 days ago

        So, you’re okay with a whole bunch of people who have no problem with vaccines die because they live next to anti-vaxxers?

        Wow, so noble. You really are a moral person and not some idiot wanking your anger boner on the internet.

        • KingPorkChop@lemmy.caEnglish
          171·
          13 days ago

          Ideally those who have the vaccine would be protected from the contagion that might come from the anti-vax next door.

          I’m very worried for those who are Immunocompromised or those that can not get the vaccine for whatever reason. When the next plague comes, these are the people I will be supporting and trying to help.

          I think what you fail to understand is many of us spent unlimited hours trying to explain vaccines, masks, washing hands, social distancing, etc to these people during covid and all it did was get them to double down on their anti-social behaviour. I even had a few spit at me.

          So yeah, fuck these asshole cunts. They put all of us in danger.

      • Phoenicianpirate@lemm.eeEnglish
        81·
        12 days ago

        RFK jr. Isn’t just anti-germ theory. He doesn’t even follow miasma theory… he follows something even older and more stupid: terrain theory. The idea that you get sick BECAUSE you were unhealthy and not the other way around. That diseases are opportunists looking for malnourished or lazy or weak individuals (weak by their own choices) than just something that can happen to anyone.

        You know those girls who died of measles? He insisted it happened because they were malnourished. No amount of evidence presented by doctors could convince him otherwise.

        Basically we have an absolutely insane conspiracy theorist who has the medical beliefs of a medieval quack in charge of US health.

      • KSP Atlas@sopuli.xyz
        61·
        13 days ago

        this whole “valuing specific humans are inherently inferior to others and can’t be saved” business reminds me of something…

        Misinformation is what you wanna target, not the victims

        • KingPorkChop@lemmy.caEnglish
          83·
          13 days ago

          How long do you personally choose to argue with a flat earther?

          The evidence is there. The math isn’t that hard and they can do it themselves to prove a round earth. There are a few simple experiments they can do to prove it. They consciously choose to ignore everything and believe something provably incorrect.

          If someone is mentally deficient, or had a learning disability, that’s one thing. I’m not talking about these people. I’m talking about the flat earther type (or anti-vax, or tribalism MAGA nut) who chooses to go against simple science.

          • KSP Atlas@sopuli.xyz
            2·
            13 days ago

            Media landscapes can be vastly different for different people, and if they’re surrounded by media “confirming” their conspiracies, they will choose to believe that rather than what “some random people” say

    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned from community
      535·
      12 days ago

      Do you think libs are going to tell people to stop eating meat because it’s destroying the planet, breeding diseases, and of course least importantly (\s) torturing/murdering animals?

      Never have. Never will. Chuck and nancy probably have stock in this shit.

      • webadict@lemmy.world
        172·
        12 days ago

        Do you want people to eat less meat, or do you want to feel superior to people because you eat less meat? Because it feels like the latter from all your comments here.

  • thebluehood_380@lemmy.world
    6·
    12 days ago

    I don’t wanna get my hopes up so fear-mongering aside, how actually likely is any of this?

    Because I keep remembering that humans are notoriously bad at future prediction.

    • betanumerus@lemmy.caEnglish
      4·
      12 days ago

      Surely you aren’t expecting a calculated probability between 0% and 100%. The most useful thing the scientists can do for us here is to prepare for the worse (while hoping for the best), and that is done by carefully selecting the recommendations they chose to publish (in the article).