Go ahead, vote MAGA in the midterms if you’re curious how fucked your life can get.

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    vote MAGA in the midterms if you’re curious how fucked your life can get.

    Or don’t vote. Again. Either will have the same effect.

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    LOL, I cannot wait until I have my next IRL conversations with the more-leftist-than-thou dumbasses that sat out or voted third party and the Enlightened Centrists that voted for Taco because they fell for the right wing/Russian agitprop that Biden’s economy was so terrible and/or that Kamala was genocidal and/or something something “gerontocracy”.

    JFC.

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      Your top dem wants trans people exterminated just like Trump. So where’s the FUCKING choice? If trump was a dem, you’d vote for him.

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      200 NGOs Oppose Biden’s Historic Expansion of ICE Detention System: “Detention should not be about politics.”

      ICE records show Biden admin plans could give Trump a head start on deportations

      President Biden Signs Anti-Immigrant Spending Bill Reaching Trump-Era Highs

      Biden’s Emergency Funding Proposal Seeks $14 Billion for Immigration System From Congress

      Tom Homan - Border Czar was originally appointed by Obama

      Keep in mind, these democrat moves to bolster ICE were happening while the right was blatantly telegraphing their moves to immediately weaponize ICE once they took power. Project 2025 came out and promised to use ICE to plunder and abuse Americans. Biden and team then spent the next 4 years not only failing to prepare for Trump, but preemptively strengthening the mechanisms Trump would eventually use to carry out project 2025. The democrats are controlled opposition.

      Sure, maybe we wouldnt be seeing this intense of immigration enforcement if Kamala were in charge, but if she were, she’d be working behind the scenes to ensure the right had all the tools they needed when the time was right.

      The democrats are controlled opposition and the American electoral system is kabuki theater. The fascist descent is the only logical conclusion to the American political experiment- which was predicated on the wholesale genocide of Native American Indians and quickly pivoted to enslaving an entire continent.

      You realize what the only logical conclusion to your “pragmatic liberal utilitarianism” is, right? I give it 4 years before youre chiding leftists for not voting for dem candidate Ted Cruz as he campaigns against republican candidate Mecha Hitler. Youll still see nothing wrong with that. You will sell out the victims of American Imperialism to buy yourself 4 more years of political waffling - just as you did with Palestinians.

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        Immigration was a huge debate issue during that time and something just kept saying not enough was being done to combat a bunch of lies and made up stories. So yeah, they went all in an said “see” but gumball in chief just kept lying and swindling and y’all ate it up.

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      Yes it’s the individuals that are the problem not the party that chains to be left but sides right every single fucking time.

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        Do you honestly think that if Harris won there would be armed agents on the street murdering citizens, driving your economy to historic lows, alienating your closest allies, tanking trade routes, invading Venezuela, kidnapping anyone with a skin colour darker than snow white…

        I could go on.

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        So, who else to blame for voters that think Taco and Kamala are the same and that Taco would be “better for 'conomy”? That’s the fault of the Democratic Party?

        People keep blaming them for anything and everything and how they have to “message better”, but the Democrats don’t really have any kind of media to get that message out on.

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          No one said that. But it’s inarguable that the Democratic party is in large part responsible for people not wanting to vote for the candidates they put forth knowing full well we want an actual lefty and not a corporate business monster.

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      Ah yes waste time blaming people who were actually trying to move the needle back to the left but were roundly ignored by a bunch of geriatric genociders who would rather pander to racists and ignoramuses who would never vote for them in the first place than just idk maybe stop committing genocide.

      This will totally get those people to vote for the other milque toast white racist that the dems put up as a candidate without any sort of election and just expect everyone to vote for because “at least theyre not trump” without actually having any policy that differs from republicans in any sort of meaningful way.

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        without actually having any policy that differs from republicans in any sort of meaningful way.

        For all that the dems really do seem to do their best to alienate the left, I’m fairly sure their policy did not include having barely trained, masked, goons running around American cites executing people at will, kidnapping others, and facing no concequences, and yet, trump was clear that it was what he wanted. I’d call that a meaningful difference.

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        I’ve been struggling with this for a while. I can understand and respect the moral dilemma that comes with participating in elections. I think, though, too many people look at it in a black and white lens that creates blinders.

        I’ve never in my life voted for a candidate that I agreed with on everything. Yes, the moral importance of some issues weigh far heavier than others, but the ultimate goal is to do the least bad. I will continue to vote for the candidates I believe offer the most harm reduction if voting is available to me, because these are the options I have to work with. We have to make decisions in the moment that reflect the reality of where we’re at.

        We’re living through the consequences of inaction that presents itself as protest. Had Kamala won, do we think we’d be seeing the absolute fucking insanity we’ve found ourselves in right now? I’m glad this moment is pushing more and more people to action and resistance, but at what cost? People are being disappeared, deported, and murdered in the streets by our government right now. And Gazans certainly haven’t benefitted from the current administration. This is a level of bad I never expected to see in my life, and I think there are a lot of terminally online people who are seeing this in a romanticized way that obscures the severity of the situation we find ourselves in.

        We likely would have had more ability to push things to the left without the levels of harm, destruction, and violence that we’re seeing now under just about anyone but Trump and Project 2025. Instead of activism and outreach, now we have to play defense and protect our neighbors and communities. Not to mention the roll acks of rights to the health and safety of women and queer people are more passively costing lives and creating suffering.

        Yes, the status quo was terrible. Democrats offer pretty words and little action. They aren’t going to save us or give us the futures we deserve. I’d give just about anything for us to be out of this, though. Humiliation and disgust on an international scale, the daily violence, and reading new horrors every damn day is absolutely the greater of two evils, though. I can’t see a scenario where anything is worth what’s in store.

        Non voters aren’t the sole reason we’re here, but I’m sick of pretending that those people’s choices didn’t play a large role in our current situation. These times demand we all do some soul searching, take accountability, and work together to get out of this in one piece. Because, again, we have to live in the reality of where we’re at.

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      Christian USA basically had to choose between the Antichist and your average capital-loving politician and they went “fuck it, I’ll vote for satan cause he said he I’ll make gas cheaper.”. And the pedo-guy still has a 40% approval rating at the current moment. This country is a lost cause.

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      I have someone like that in my life. To this day they think masking and “forced gene modifications” are a bigger deal than what happening now. I’ve been lectured so many times about how anger at what’s going on is just being political.

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          She’s antivax, especially when it comes to the mRNA vaccines, she claims they are a government experiment that we were forced to undergo. She conveniently ignores that the phizer was available and you weren’t mandated unless you wanted access to public services.

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            Oh, good grief. One of those dead-enders. I find it hilarious when someone I know still holds a grudge about having to get the “jab” to travel, or to work, and so on. The biggest snowflakes.

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      Maybe you should devote that energy toward more constructive organization efforts within your party, or good faith gestures that build trust and solidarity with new allies? As someone who did hold his nose and voted for the uninspiring, inept Democrat pick who went on to eat shit I have to say this preoccupation with rubbing your party’s failure in the face of anyone you failed to reach is… Not inspiring, to put it charitably.

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        Voting for Kamala was the only sane move. That’s all we were asking for.

        We all want Bernie, but the nation is what it is and we’d have been streets ahead with Kamala even. Hopefully AOC someday.

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        LOL, you must not have much dealings with the type I’m talking about. They are rubbing their high-horse ideals in my face all the time, saying that Taco is more or less the same as Kamala would have been.

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        Yes, not inspiring and entirely unproductive. Demonizing and pushing those who didn’t vote blue further to the right isn’t helpful, and I’m not saying “both sides are bad” or that we have to compromise with Republicans (I voted for Kamala too).

        As fucked as things are, we can either whine about not getting our way until the end of time, or we can do something about it. Comments like OPs push the needle in the wrong direction.

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          Sadly, I’m pretty convinced if Kamala was Male they would currently be president. Trump has only ever beaten a woman, in a race… Or whatever

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    I feel sad for the young people that voted for him, but maybe they’ll learn something from this.

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    I worked my ass off. Now I can pay for a place to live and keep paying it off no matter what for 30 years. No matter what? Yeah anything happens to me, that means my family looses their house for life because they are too young to work now but not having a house will make it harder for them to ever get one.

    I’m basically a slave.

    Now if I were to sale my home, then I could probably afford to buy a smaller house and keep paying even more! Yey! That’s how math works right? You get 10 dollars for your house so that you can buy half that house for 11 dollars! Yey!

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      But have you tried being born rich? A trust fund to protect you from most of humanity that has to deal with the shit end of capitalism, maybe leverage a little of that wealth to get control over systems of economy and legislature.

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      I’m basically a slave.

      That’s the goal. Whatever keeps workers working is what the ruling class will force upon us.

      It’s why we never invested in fusion energy. Expensive fossil fuels keeps people working.

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      I saw people on the Reddit conservative sub saying “100 year mortgages are actually pretty good, they offer a lot of flexibility”. Madness.

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        Oh, those poor idiots. Flexibility + housing (+ too good to be true) is how we got into a housing crisis in the first place.

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    It’s OK guys, I’m planning on buying a home later this year. Knowing my luck, property values should plummet sharply shortly after I do that.

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          Implement the Argentina response which is to keep taking out loans one after the other, pay off older loans with newer loans as their currency crashes.

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          And the income follows somewhat inflation, otherwise you’ll need 600% of your income to barely afford one meal per day, and you won’t have anything left for the house.

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          I’d bet on stagflation actually:

          Stagflation is an economic condition characterized by the simultaneous occurrence of high inflation, stagnant economic growth, and elevated unemployment.

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            Yeah, given seems Trump hell bent on devaluing the dollar and destroying global trade, stagflation seems most likely.

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    I hate him.

    My dream is to be a homeowner and it’s slipping away faster than I can chase after it.

    I fucking hate him so much.

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    ‘Didn’t Work Very Hard’

    Can we each be given the kind of head start of millions he did? :3

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    Didn’t he just say he’s kicking out investment firms to help housing affordability?

    He needs to drive up the prices so the investors can sell their investment properties at a profit before goes all “we dropped housing prices”.

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    What a shite take from the man who has no sense of real-world costs.

    The price of a house is roughly, give or take, about one house. People might trade up and supplement the difference or have had savings from between purchases, but that initial upfront, first-time cost is the hardest one. It’s not a grand difference of space between rungs on the ladder, it’s that more and more of the lower rungs are getting actively broken off for the benefit of those with a surplus to sell.

    Scum.

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      What a shite take from the man who has no sense of real-world costs.

      He also has no understanding of inflation. Lowing interest rates with rising inflation will, almost certainly, drive up home prices. As there will be more dollars chasing a limited supply. The problem is that this sort thing has a bad habit of going poorly. Investors have just gotten addicted to cheap credit. The US Fed is supposed to be the adult in the room, but The Pedo in Chief is doing his best to undermine that safeguard.

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    He is setting USA up for the worst economic crisis in history.

    The biggest, the best, the most beautiful financial downfall the world has ever seen.

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      Crashed economies hurt the poor. The rich use their wealth to buy up resources, realestate, stocks, etc. on the cheap and then ride it out in their luxury homes while the rest of us stand in the bread lines.

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        Which only works until you tank the country by pissing of your customers (aka other countries) enough and tank your currency.

        Everything en route!

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          The wealthiest people in the world already essentially do not experience borders. They regularly travel without passports or customs checks, live for extended periods in multiple nations without visas, they are essentially the proverbial citizens of the world. If the US falls and the dollar is wiped from the face of the Earth, they’ll have all of their money in European stocks, Asian currencies, and Middle Eastern real estate as they watch the collapse.

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        What hes aiming for is destabilization.

        He’s already talking civil war.

        Which I think is his ultimate goal. and the goal of his masters.

        Civil War 2 on a horrific scale, that knocks America out of any meaningful global position for years, if not decades afterwards.

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      It will take a bit more time. Enough time that when the next president steps in, the aftermath will really show. Then this egotistic maniac will point at that president and blame them. Never him fault, according to him.

      But that’s narcissism for you.

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    If only salary and net worth would be tied to the actual effort made at work.

    Almost all CEOs would be homeless.