President Donald Trump said he is designating the far-left anti-fascism movement Antifa as a terrorist organization, announcing the move on his Truth Social platform in the early hours of Thursday morning UK time.

It wasn’t immediately clear what mechanism Trump would use to make the designation, and Antifa lacks centralized structure or defined leadership, making it unclear who or what precisely would be targeted.

“I am pleased to inform our many U.S.A. Patriots that I am designating ANTIFA, A SICK, DANGEROUS, RADICAL LEFT DISASTER, AS A MAJOR TERRORIST ORGANIZATION,” Trump wrote. “I will also be strongly recommending that those funding ANTIFA be thoroughly investigated in accordance with the highest legal standards and practices. Thank you for your attention to this matter!”

A White House official told CNN, “This is just one of many actions the president will take to address left wing organizations that fuel political violence.”

Trump — who’s overseas for a formal state visit — signaled the move earlier this week in remarks from the Oval Office following the murder of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

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    Where is ANTIFA?

    When was the last time someone saw ANTIFA?

    Who are ANTIFA’s leaders?

    Just another scare tactic to get terrified conservatives to fear an invisible boogeyman even more than they already do.

    Also, let’s be clear. ANTIFA stands for Anti-Fascist. In a nation not run by actual fascists, anti-fascism is a good thing.

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      This is far more than a scare tactic. Its a way to designate anyone who disagrees with the current regime to be legally designated as an enemy of the state and allow for dissidents to be arrested, held indefinitely, and tortured through legal loopholes(at least until they stop needing to actually follow any semblance of the law).

      This is a major step towards trump consolidating his power and he’s wanted it since his first term.

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    Antifa is so 2016 dude, it doesn’t exist anymore.

    It’s another distraction for his base to not realize they are being screwed so royally by their daddy trump.

    You can’t just declare random people who hate Nazis a terrorist group and then ignore proud boys, the KKK, and MAGA.

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      Don’t be ignorant, they can label any opposition groups they don’t like as “antifa” and then send them all to Guantanamo, PLEASE I BEG OF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING.

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      You say that but that is what they are doing.

      Who is going to stop them? There’s nobody left. This shit will go from ugly and stupid to uglier and stupider. There is no bottom to this.

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        I mean, there’s like thirty kids on Lemmy every post who keep spamming about the Epstein files, so surely we’ll be fine 🙄

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      You can’t just declare random people who hate Nazis a terrorist group

      He just did. The rules mean less and less by the minute.

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      You are completely wrong. Antifa always exists. Anyone that is against fascism is “antifa.” It isn’t an organization. It’s ideology. Antifa = Freedom.

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        Antifa has no roster or structure. That’s why designating antifa a terror organization is such a powerful move: if you are opposed to Trump, you are antifa, and therfore a terrorist.

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        You are completely wrong. Antifa always exists.

        IT. DOES. NOT. MATTER.

        This is not about ideology or group structure, this is a political tool so that they can label any person, group, website (like this one) who opposes the administration as “antifa” and then lock everyone up and either ship them off to Guantanamo or put them to work as slave-labor to replace the migrants.

        There is no law, there is no check or balance system anymore. We are going to lose everything including our freedoms just by talking about it if we don’t mobilize as a whole country, even if it means doing uncomfortable things and uniting with people who don’t share our every ideal… and this is where I know we’re already lost.

        You’re all too entitled, too comfortable, to scared. Every negative, child-like emotion is what led us to this point without opposition.

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      What’s coming next is going to make whatever injustice we felt about Epstein feel forgotten, we are LOSING THE COUNTRY. It’s a bigger deal, if there’s anyone left out there who cares in a non-performative way, it’s probably time to start thinking about actual movement and action.

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      I get a weird feeling that Shatner might be on Epsteins list too.

      I sure as hell hope not, but who the fuck knows anymore.

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          Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that it’s an argument to keep the most hidden, I would 10000x rather know than not know. Ignorance isn’t a defense.

          Regardless of who is on the list, someone needs to release that shit.

          I get the feeling that it will only be released in one of two ways:

          1. During Trump’s presidency, but so heavily redacted that it’s basically just black paper with random individual words in some places…

          Or 2. By the next government. Probably still somewhat redacted, but probably way less than what would be seen if Trump releases them.

          In the first scenario, they’ll probably run out of ink…

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    Any resistance will be declared Antifa. Anyone that gets in Trump’s way will be declared Antifa. Anything not Maga will be declared Antifa.

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      That’s what makes it so useful to them. If Antifa doesn’t exist, then they get to make it up. And that means they get to decide who’s in it.

      And of course, once they decide you’re a member of Antifa, that makes you a suspected terrorist. And suspected terrorists don’t get things like a right to a trial. Suspected terrorists get shipped off to Guantanamo. Oh but you’re not actually a terrorist? How do you plan to prove that in court, if you don’t have a right to a day in court?

      All that shit that everyone let slide when it was being used to hunt AL Quaida or whatever; this is where it leads. Once you decide that certain people don’t get human rights, all they have to do is expand the definition of certain people.

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      I mean, it exists, but as an idea, a label of sorts. A movement, some would say, or a principle. But yeah, it isn’t a specific organization that can be shut down. It’s just there are some people who do some things that are anti-fascist, and by that virtue they “are” “Antifa”. I’d argue that even that status is ephemeral.

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    ANTIFA is not an organization, it’s a movement, an idea. Anybody who disapproves of fascism is ANTIFA, by definition, and are therefore now considered terrorists by this administration. This move is so that people can now be arrested, deported, detained, executed for speaking out against this administration. There are STILL people being held in Gitmo without trial because the state considered them terrorists. That’s where we’re at now with anybody who dares to speak out against Trump or joins a protest against this administration.

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    “It wasn’t immediately clear what mechanism Trump would use to make the designation, and Antifa lacks centralized structure or defined leadership, making it unclear who or what precisely would be targeted.”

    Lmao this is the whole point – right wing leaders (for now Trump, but also whatever shithead populists arise after him) can just slap the Antifa label on whoever they don’t like, to justify whatever they want to do with them.

    Not that different from the “terrorism” label in the early 2000s. Some people were shouting as loud as they could from as many rooftops as they could, that this label would eventually be used far more broadly than initially intended. Sure enough, look at us now. “Stopping terrorism” has been used to justify all manner of insanely not-OK shit.

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      I was actually shocked the NY judged dismissed the terrorism charges against Luigi, by citing that it didn’t actually meet the real definition.