The woman who actually lives in the house had just moved to Oklahoma City from Maryland with her family about two weeks earlier.
“I keep asking them, ‘who are you? What are you doing here? What’s happening,’” she said. “And they said, ‘we have a warrant for the house, a search warrant.’”
She said they ordered her and her daughters outside into the rain before they could even put on clothes.
“They wanted me to change in front of all of them, in between all of them,” she said. “My husband has not even seen my daughter in her undergarments—her own dad, because it’s respectful. You have her out there, a minor, in her underwear.”
Marisa said the names on the search warrant were not hers or anyone in her family.
“We just moved here from Maryland,” she said. “We’re citizens. That’s what I kept saying. We’re citizens.”
She said the agents didn’t care.
“They were very dismissive, very rough, very careless,” she said. “I kept pleading. I kept telling them we weren’t criminals. They were treating us like criminals. We were here by ourselves. We didn’t do anything.”
Marisa said the agents tore apart every square inch of the house and what few belongings they had, seizing their phones, laptops and their life savings in cash as “evidence.”
“I told them before they left, I said you took my phone. We have no money. I just moved here,” she said. “I have to feed my children. I’m going to need gas money. I need to be able to get around. Like, how do you just leave me like this? Like an abandoned dog.”
Before they left, Marisa said one of the agents made a comment.
“One of them said, ‘I know it was a little rough this morning,’” she said. “It was so denigrating. That you do all of this to a family, to women, your fellow citizens. And it was a little rough? You literally traumatized me and my daughters for life. We’re going to have to go get help or get over this somehow.”
Now, Marisa said they have, quite literally, nothing.
“I said, ‘when are we going to get our stuff back?’ They said it could be days or it could be months,” she said.
Marisa said she is left with nothing but questions.
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They were asleep
I’m reminded of Breonna Taylor now. Different circumstances, but the same perpetrators.
That’s how Kristi Noem gets all her walking around cash
Technically, it was the correct home, just the occupants changed.
Man, if only there was some way to determine who the correct residents are BEFORE doing a raid… 🤔
steals their life savings
Everything new is a forgotten old, Wallenstein’s turn.
But yeah, more such stories, more rougher reactions.
I think Lemmy public will reconsider their gun rights stance after a couple of years.
I think Lemmy public will reconsider their gun rights stance after a couple of years
I used to think anti gun people would face reality at some point. Then January 6th happened, and blue conservatives still wanted to disarm the people.
Even after repeatedly demonstrating they or the justice system will never defend us. We are on our own.
And yet, those who want easy access to guns argue its to protect themselves from tyrannical power. They are also not doing that. Perhaps, in part, because the power disparity between military, police, and a civilian gun owner makes personal guns little more than display pieces.
Gun ownership is a hobby. Most of the dialogue around them is theater. Those who enjoy guns own far more than is needed for ‘defense’, because it’s enjoying ownership that they’re actually defending.
Perhaps, in part, because the power disparity between military, police, and a civilian gun owner makes personal guns little more than display pieces.
So it’s better to let it grow more, right?
Gun ownership is a hobby. Most of the dialogue around them is theater. Those who enjoy guns own far more than is needed for ‘defense’, because it’s enjoying ownership that they’re actually defending.
That’s obvious, hard to do a lot of what you don’t enjoy if you can avoid it. Of course it’s theater. Most of the dialogue around karate is theater. It still somewhat prepares one physically for various events.
I wrote a Gemini (small web) client in the last 2 days, of course it’s theater, I don’t have a modus of using Gemini yet, but it was useful. At least I have a client convenient for me personally, I’ve gained some experience (ok, it’s a simple task, but), some self-confidence.
With guns - of course it’s mostly a very cool toy, people also do historical fencing with swords. But they also learn things about military history and something about using small arms. Better than nothing, sniper rifles still have a place in warfare, even if typical “assault rifles” are almost like a bayonet in WWII, still has uses, but very secondary.
Learning is the root of any achievement. Learning is helped by joy. Why should this be different for defense?
A lot of communities now have local organizations with armed volunteers ready to show up and stop ICE.
Try to look around for your local leftist orgs, if one isn’t already doing this then it’s probably coming soon or just one comment away from realizing it’s a good idea.
Find your local orgs, stay in contact, stay organized, and stay armed.
So you are saying that crooks could just type up fake ICE warrants and rob rich people?
Yup, just need a van with ICE on it, and someone to sneak in and hide that the fake ICE will find and now you also have a reason to take that rich person’s phone as “evidence” as well so they can’t contact anyone for help.
Heck, if it’s a particularly daring gang, they could then “arrest” said rich person, and get them to tell you the name of a fellow rich person they can contact to post “bail” for them by paying to a virtual bank, then transferring that money to foreign banks to them convert into a cryptocurrency, to get even more money.
I bet ICE would be reined in if rich conservatives got targeted…
How long before people start pretending to be ICE to basically break and enter into homes to rob people? Not like they can fight back, or even question things, or have due process, if someone in an ICE vest shows up at your door.
Is there any evidence it hasn’t happened already? It’s not like they’d announce or even denounce it.
Is there anything morally different between pretending to be ICE to break into people’s homes to rob them and actually being ICE and breaking into people’s homes to rob them?
Being ICE is worse because the victims are more likely to be shot or deported by these goons. Regular burglary just wants your shit with none of that hassle.
People need to start breaking down the doors of the homes of rich white Republicans, accusing them of being illegal aliens, and claiming to be ICE. That’s when this will actually stop.
This has already been happening for several months: https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/04/us/ice-impersonators-on-the-rise-arrests-made-as-authorities-issue-national-warning/index.html
What do mean “how long”? It’s exactly what happened here?
No it isn’t, homeland security took responsibility.
Interesting how many just mindlessly upvoted it
At this point if I ever have the displeasure of meeting an ice terrorist I’m going to shoot him/her
IANAL, TINLA, but: Don’t publish plans to commit crimes.
If they are standing their ground it might be up for debate.
You gotta be smart, use obscure language embrace missed messaging.
Exhibit A, Your Honor.
Not the family? Whatever! Take them anyway
-ICE
“We’re citizens. That’s what I kept saying. We’re citizens.”
sounds like face eating.
Lib fash happy to see any perceived “enemy” attacked.
I bet they didn’t even vote for kamalacaust!!! \s
sorry huh? this shouldn’t happen. when it does its slightly better if I happens to people who support it.
Mistakes do happen, there’s no need to overreact or blow things out of proportion.
100% Fascism.
Illegal search and seizure. Where’s the nra? The various groups that swore to uphold the constitution?
They’re probably at a klan rally.
The NRA gave up their ‘jack-booted thugs’ rhetoric and started kissing Republican asses when Bush Jr. was president. Bush very publicly renounced his lifetime membership over LaPierre’s–very, very reasonable and measured–stance that the feds were shitty people. The NRA caved rather than continue to speak the obvious truth, and they’ve had a fetish for licking cop boots ever since.
They were already there, doing the seizing.
“Marisa. Sounds Mexican, she deserves it probably.”
-NRA
Her name is Marisa.
Even Mexicaner
Fairly sure it’s Italian/Spanish actually. But, most republicans probably think of them as the same thing.
You know an awful lot about them foreigners.
I think you are one too.
Naah probably just one of them uppity college professors. I bet they don’t even like football.
They wish they had our Mediterranean good looks.
You’re right! Idk why my brain deleted the S when I went to write it out, thanks!
Unironically enough for MAGAts to call for deportation.
Any decent person who did not vote for this needs to absolutely gtfo of red states and assume they’re a no-go zone from here on out. Of course the blue states won’t be safe forever, but there is absolutely no reason to put yourself in danger by going to one of those Nazi shit holes.
The lack of DV resources/the fact that my ex basically created a cult and it’s really hard to navigate a divorce when you’ve been tortured and also still think that he must actually love you means that I am hopelessly shackled to this place. I’ve lived the cruelty of this state so long that I don’t feel like a human being anymore.
I just hope they don’t burn my paintings and books. I want them to stay together. I want my art and thoughts to be recognized because they’ve never been welcome here.
I felt it when Zach killed himself. I didn’t know him close but I did. I felt it even more when Nex was murdered, when it was covered up and everyone just passively accepted the narrative that Alex Jones and /pol/ had been sharing since they were killed because the Stitt appointee said so.
Oklahoma is sick. It’s been sick since it’s inception - the “boomers” that couldn’t even wait to steal their land. The “Little House on the Prairie” family did that even before the boomers. The murders of the Osage - that even today not all the murders are known as murders. It’s a bloodsick land.
I sick of the red state garbage. Nearly every “red” state has “blue” cities. Stop blaming entire populations, age groups or other demographics. You’re just falling for the divide and conquer message they want to use against everyone.
Nah, what I actually said was if you’re in a red state and you didn’t vote for this, get the fuck out for your own protection. If you’ll take a second to read, that’s what I said. If you don’t take a second to read, that still remains what I said. I didn’t blame anyone in the state who didn’t vote for this for it, now did I? I said get out. You do you, man.
The vast majority of Americans do not have the means to up and move to a new state.
I would love to flee to a blue-r area. Somewhere where sharing with my neighbors and participating in community doesn’t feel like supporting racism and misogyny.
But, I have a disabled family member that needs care in their home, so … for now my sense of familial duty keeps me in a very red area.
Me and everyone I know has absolutely no means to just up and move to another state and find employment, a place to live that’s affordable, and the moving costs. We can’t afford to flee for safety
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Don’t make brash promises you can’t keep, they absolutely have already come to blue states and they were all over blue states during Trump’s last term, too.
I’m in Cali, I want to believe that you’re right, but they’ve been going up and down the central valley black bagging brown people in home Depot parking lots.
Links? I didnt hear about this.
Calmatters has covered it pretty well. There’s been more raids, but this was the first article on it that I could find for you. https://calmatters.org/economy/2025/01/kern-county-immigration-sweep/
A justice recently issued an injunction against them just scooping up brown people first and finding out if they’re here illegally or criminals later, but IIRC they went ahead and ignored that and did another raid.
E: more recent article https://calmatters.org/justice/2025/04/border-patrol-injunction/
FTA:
After the January sweep, the man who led it, Chief Patrol Agent Gregory Bovino, said his agents specifically targeted people with criminal and immigration histories. However, a CalMatters investigation revealed that the Border Patrol had no criminal or immigration history on 77 of the 78 people it arrested.
The court also ordered the Border Patrol to document every stop and provide reports within 60 days. During oral arguments on Monday, the government attorney said doing so would be burdensome to Border Patrol agents. Judge Thurston rebuked the government, saying: “They have to make a report for every arrest, not sure what the burden is.”
According to sworn declarations filed in court by those detained, Border Patrol agents slashed tires, yanked people out of trucks, threw people to the ground, and called farmworkers “Mexican bitches.”
